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AvaxHome VIP - premium accounts
Posted By : torai |
Date : 15 Feb 2009 12:10:00 |
Comments : 75
Do you like the online ads on our site as much as we do? Don’t bother answering – we already guessed the answer! Unfortunately we live in the world where web site without ads is an exception. We feel your affection towards our site not only through the number of visits (100 000 unique visitors per day), but also through your donations performed on a regular basis. In the long winter nights spent by us (the AvaxHome administration) on thinking what we can do for users making donations, we arrived to a very clear (though not easy) conclusion: we have to find means to express our appreciation to these users. Effective today AvaxHome introduces VIP accounts.
What does it mean?
For each $5 donation you will be granted with ad-free access to our site during the following month. As simple as that: 30 days of surfing our site without seeing a single ad banner! Since majority of donations that we receive are for $10, the VIP account duration will be set accordingly: $5 – 1 month, $10 – 2 months, $15 – 3 months and so on.
How will it work?
Below you can see our account details in various payment systems.
After submitting a donation, send an email to vip@avaxhome.ws of the following format:
Title: AvaxHome – torai
[your username in AvaxHome] / [your email address that has been used for payment]
That’s it! Your premium account will be activated within 24 hours upon receipt of such an email so you can enjoy fast access to our absolutely ad-free content literally for pennies!
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I don't like ads but it's the only way I can pay for downloading free apps, books, music...
Those who don't like tv commercials have cable tv, so it's fine that those who hate ads can pay to avoid ads
For now ads at avaxhome are not too annonying so I can live with them
By now I have money and I would like donate to avaxhome because I am happy with everything I find there, but I have no credit card, no master card, no visa, no paypal acount, how could be the easiest way I can donate?
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@nuffsaider - There is no need to click on ads if you are interested, we will not deceive advertisers.
send one email to vip@avaxhome.ws and include
PayPal – torai@gmail.com [your account ID in PayPal]
AvaxHome – torai [your username in AvaxHome]
in the body ?
Anything special in the subject line ?
I'm happy to support your work
Never mind......Jeez that was fast....Keep on doing your good job!
But what really is a problem is that the ADD forwards often FAIL and
are ending in a none-existing page or even keep forwarding, not leaving us the ability to escape....
So ADDs : OK, but make it bearable for all of us. They should work and allow a quick click-it-away.
Or am i the only one with troubles (IE7)
More and more I wonder if it was really a good idea to raise a new "AvaxHome reloaded" out of the ashes of the real AvaxHome which DIED in July 2008.
In his first public words after the shock Avax wrote "We lost everything ... server, money, database, software, ..."
Now, after 6 months of "AvaxHome reloaded", it's clear that we lost much more. We fully lost the SPIRIT AvaxHome once stood for.
OK, I will not further discuss the commercialization of "AvaxHome reloaded" and I also will keep my mouth shut when Pasha & Torai will perhaps offer you in a next step the "Gold" and "Platin membership".
The only thing I want to make sure is: I never took a single cent of money out of AvaxHome and I never will rake any cent of the money collected by "Please donate ..." ad "Premium member" or whatever will be next. I have a real job which pays me well and allowed me to have altruistic views which in past fitted very well to former spirit of AvaxHome.
OK, this is just a PERSONAL COMMENT and should be seen in such a way. Every member who likes this offer, shoud feel free to buy it.
@ Pasha & Torai
>> P.S. Those of you who made a donation after February 1st, please send us an email so we can activate your premium accounts.
It would have been no bad idea to give this offer also to the people who made this "AvaxHome reloaded" possible at all by donating last year when AvaxHome really badly needed money to go online again. But, like usual, this is also just my PERSONAL view.
I think that some did not understand the idea. There are no restrictions for users.
Vip account - this is our gratitude for the donations that users are already doing.
Adds are there but I don't have to click them
I click an add only if it offers something I need
but they are mostly tricky adds
we know what happens when we click them so why to click them?
who can click an old tricky add that says
You are lucky you have won something, click here...
or
You have a new message
Maybe new users click there, and I think there are many new users every day so that kind of adds persist
Avaxhome will be the same for everybody,
why are you crying before anything terrible has happened?
And if avaxhome owners begin to win a lot of money and they decide to make avaxhome commercial, then they are free to convert avaxhome to commercial site if they like it, I just have to say thanks for the free years of avaxhome, I don't have to cry or get mad for such events.
But I believe avaxhome will stay free for some more time, maybe a long long time more
Ads: No donation=ads? Not 4 me, maybe i´m just a lucky bastard
Bully: You´re a lucky one (steady job & plenty $$), but you should know that "wealth" is only created thru "profit". Well off ppl like you can afford to have "altruistic" motives, ´cause they got enough, poor ppl have other problems ;-). Hence commerce is not necessarily bad, if it offers a poor lad to earn some bucks. If Pasha or Torai are such folks, I don´t know :)
I'm much more concerned with the appearance of some ULers / posters using this site share-spirit to actually sell files (as if owning'em...) through stinky strategies ("half RS / half ULbox" links for instance, with "threats" to stop posting the next files missing if anyone dares posting a RS link...). Clearly identified ads is one thing. Arrogant-resellers dressed as free-virgins is another. To me at least.
But, most important : Keep on the amazing work and take care of your freedom, dudes !
Edit : @algunsujetomas : if U read me right, I don't mention any "avax pop-up". Just the fact that identified ads don't affect me anymore (here or elsewhere), & that I'm even not bored anymore when they pop-up "on so many sites". Sorry if I've been misunderstood.
I have no popups in avaxhome
The popups I have are from the sharing servers amd they are outside avaxhome
I use opera and I've never had any popup from avaxhome
@ Svenny
> Bully: You´re a lucky one (steady job & plenty $$), but you should know that "wealth" is only created thru "profit"
Working hard has not much to do with luck :-)
OK, I should add a few words to better understand my above comment.
>POST> In the long winter nights spent by us (the AvaxHome administration) on thinking what we can do for users ...
OK, for sure it is my fault. Or my bad brain. Whatever.
As I am - at least currently I still am - one of the admins of this site, I mainly wanted to add that I have no idea at all about these "long winter nights spent by us (the AvaxHome administration)" - the first time I heard about this "what we can do for users ..." was this evening, when I logged into AvaxHome and saw it on main page.
I do not want to express and do not want to discuss if this is good or bad or whatever - I just want to make sure - special to the AvaxHome members with us since many years - that I did NOT change my old views and still do not care about financial profit from AvaxHome. Same as most of our best original-content-publishers do do not publish for profit. In my view THESE members are our real VIPs, not the ones who "buy" their VIP status.
My other words were related to what is going on since August 2008 - the drift from quality to quanity, the already existing 2-class-system which allows 25 business guys to fill AvaxHome's first page whenever they like while all other members have to wait and wait in the moderation waiting line, the software which meanwhile more takes care for fast mass delivery instead of secure handling and so on. This new offer somehow fits into the line of changes I worry about since many months. But I might be wrong.
And I also worry a bit if our Russian admins still understand what 5 US $ really means for a normal Russian member without "international profits". A bit more sensibility about the different financial levels of members from different countries would had fit better to AvaxHome's roots and former spirit.
If some people still do not understand the reason for my comment: Please ignore it. It was mainly to spare me to type the same again and again in private mails. It is PERSONAL to me and should not be taken as reason to discussions.
it works fine too not an add in sight here or anywhere.
cheers
tink
i dont care they are free or monthly, yearly fees --- free members or vip, gold, platinum members.
Of course my posts may mean nothing to you, it's understandable, but for me it's something I love doing it, and I dedicate time and effort to do my best. I have to think it over now, because I don't know if this is the beginning of the end or the end of a beginning...
my warmest regards,
aeolos
bye herny
i do not think thats wrong if avax' ppl want to get pay for their work and for the services they are providing.....is there someone who work for free here? no!
And five bucks to help what is it if you compare with the value of all we are getting from here? not too much
but there is something which annoying me a lot....there are ppl who are complaining but they ve never posted anything on avax or so rarely.
personaly i am posting(a lot) on avax and for 1000 downloads i am lucky if i get one thank you! thats why i m not realy shocked with some negative replies today. ppl are selfish in the real world why it would be different on avax
My understanding (sorry for my limited English, it is not my ancestor’s tongue) :
- AvaxHome is still FREE , access is still FREE, (Rapidshare is not free, sorry) , no registration in AvaxHome is necessary – one can still download materials to their heart’s content without restriction, nothing has changed
- VIP status and its time-length are granted simply as a gratitude for the generosity of those who donates. No one is forced, pressured nor it is mandatory. IMHO, it is a nice gesture to offer ad- removal for those who have shown nice gestures of donating.
My fear :
- Some imbeciles might use the VIP status to “bully” uploaders into following their will , such as those comments that I often read in the music section ‘Don’t bother with the mp3 because I want FLAC, FLAC… FLACCCCC’, ‘I am so horny that I want to Flac some APE’ (ok, the last statement was an exaggeration but almost an interpretation from some of the crazy comments)
[To uploaders who received those type of pressure , here are two samples of ‘proper’ answer :
one, I quoted somewhere from our own great uploader , Galmuchet :
“if you want a better quality, go buy it at the store”
or if you prefer , a Zen-like answer that I read from somewhere else:
“don’t argue with an idiot , or he/she will bring you down to his/her level and beat you with experience”]
Thank God 99% of our users are still very decent human.
My thought :
It will be very unfair for us to judge and make predictions of where AvaxHome is going just based on a few changes as to compare to everything that this site has to offer. Please remember , this site is only run by four brave warriors :the ubiquitous -=Pasha13=-, master-Zen Avax, freedom Bully, creative Torai; and a few (maybe one) great hack-hack-hack warrior/s. Please give them some positive supports.
The rest are us : uploaders , downloaders and bot (is tot a bot ? – ok, joke :) … sorry, tot ).
OUR BICKERING WILL ONLY BENEFIT THOSE WHO WANT TO LIMIT OUR FREEDOM OF SHARING.
If one day, we are unsatisfied with what this site is becoming, then there is always that free option …
t-o l-e-a-v-e.
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sometime people come here just to get what they want (for free!!!!!) and sometime they dont understand how many hours of our free time it takes to post on avax great stuffs and how it s difficult to run such kind of web site(and the money it costs). And they nag because they dont get what they want ...like they d expect to be. i d like to remind them that avax is not a shop or a Eshop!
@altavistasf
I DO NOT agree with uyour point of view....there is something i d like to understand. what mean for you "arent you guys making more than enough money"? because for me i never have enough TO LIVE! so understand that people from avax need to get pay and we are not here to decide how much! and why ! they have they own reasons and we have to respect them. And i think that subject was opened to find constructive solutions, not to talk in vain!
ps :english is not my first language so i hope you ll understand the meaning.
Posts at Avaxhome grow every day, but I don't download too much, because FLAC or APE are too big for my band width, apps are fewer than before, books of my interests are computer related, and they are also fewer than before
There are a lot of books of army and medicine, those who like that kind of books must be happy
I prefer mp3 so I search them outside of Avaxhome
I think if Avaxhome closes or become commercial I will have more time to explore outside Avaxhome
I prefer giving for stop this.
L@ter
LOOK PAPADOWNLOAD STARTED SO AND????
AWAX IS WERE A GOOD COMMUNITY JUS STOP BEGGING PLEASE
GOOD LUCK
All the best.
What we want is everything for nothing
We come here because we find free things and we get everything we can
And we are affraid that from now everything will change and we cry for some ideas at Avaxhome
Let's wait and if things really change then we can cry, by now let's continue as always
and if as you said there are thousands of quality sites, why are you coming here to tell us that kind of things if you can find the same or better somewhere else?
avax is not begging money they are just offering a SERVICE for ppl who wants to help or participate.
and the way, according to the rates for ads on the net, 100 000 visitors per day does pay a living!
We are not asking for donations, we will get steadily, VIP - this is our way to say thank you to those who make these donations.
@ altavistasf:
I never ever got a Spam mail from the email I used "exclusivly" for AH registering.
As Torai said (and guess what - I believe him):
AH will stay free. People who can donate: go on, help. If you can´t: no need to do so. Just contribute with visiting AH to keep number of visits up.
And I don´t need Ad-free. Whoever nowadays still sees Ads is doing something wrong with his browser ;-)
AH was available on AH.ru - fitmedia.ru before "comeback". As an experienced user you should have noticed this ;-)
Donate or not, take the Ad-free VIP account or not. Stay or leave. Complain or be happy. Whatever makes your day. Having a choice is a great advantage. And totally free !
Never use your official email when you register to anything in internet, always use an alternative email
Don't use your real names, always use dummy names in your alternative email
Don't use your real information to register, always use fake information
Use anonimizer in case you surf suspicious sites
Thanks for all your job and your gentle help when needed ;-)
HUXLEY
Probably (almost certainly) not true, or there wouldn't be ANY audiophile albums on the free site, and probably no lossless.
I'd donate, even though I'm a new poster (I just started yesterday), but I've been disabled for almost twenty years, and $5 can mean the difference between going hungry or not.
Unfortunately, those ads aren't all benign--I've caught three viruses/trojans in the last two days on Avax. Easy to get rid of, but still vexing. And the ads that suddenly start talking or playing music without being clicked, or that take you to websites when you never clicked on anything, I consider (philosophically, not actually) criminal. I don't really blame those on Avax--it's the advertisers--but those two types should be banned altogether from the internet. And I'm not talking about the "floating" Avax.
Let's all do this: The next time you are on Avax and are taken to another site without clicking anything, don't come back to Avax for at least a week. Either that, or post the URL here and state clearly that you don't mind ads that sit there and try to get you to click them, but if they try to deliver content without being clicked, such hijacking will not be tolerated or condoned. Post the URL of those sites everywhere you can on the net and label them for what they are--spam artists, not true businesspeople.
Then the last year or so, things changed and now it's someone else.
Well, it makes no difference as many loyal uploaders sticked through thick and thin.
It's good to have a Premium or VIP section just for contributors/donators and yes, it should have enhanced services or better resources. However, avax must be prepared to share the benefits with uploaders for without them, there will be no avax unless avax owners themselves put up the resources. Avax cannot gain everything for itself at the expense of uploaders contributions.
However, it's the wrong approach to promote your VIP by indicating if you pay then we remove the Ads, doesn't go down well with most of us. It's like putting obstacles along the free highways and charging for the removal. Instead, create a membership section with a minimum yearly upgrading fee of not more than $20 which should be affordable for most people. Afterall, you are already generating revenues from Ads on your site here. So for $20/year and getting 20 ppl to join a month equals $400/month and should your memberships up to 200 for the twelve months, you would have $4000/year enough to cover your hosting/site maintenance expenses, etc.
Freely sharing resources, keep the Ads on this site, have your enhanced membership site ready with no Ads or minimum ads and let users decide if they wish to upgrade.
The most irritating types of showing Ads should be avoided especially the multi-popups/popunders and sticky ads.
One more thing to add here is there should have good quality filehosts as mirrors (if not primary ones of uploaders choices) such as the two top-dogs Rapidshare.com and Megaupload.com
One good free one with decent speed is Mediafire.com (right now they are good and fast access to the files for downloading) as compared to others who's making it so difficult for free downloads and kind of forcing ppl to take up their premium service which should be avoided.
Regardless of how much we dislike RS and/or MU, being leaders in the industry with truly high quality hardwares and systems, uploaders cannot ignore them ...that is if uploaders are truly in the spirit of sharing as their primary focus and intent.
Although I have lost my job due to an accident two years ago and trying to start my first online business, I still can afford if the cost is minimal.
On the bright side, we are all trying to find the best solutions with an open mind and view all well intent feedbacks constructively.
My sincere and best wishes to all avaxians!
I have signed for a Premium account for 1 month as a trial.
There seems to be 2 sides to AVAX, the content and the downloader (rapidshare, etc).
Rapidshare works fine however there are a number of items I would like that are on a different server: ftp2...
When I go there it asks me for a ridiculous payment. How can I access this material?
sugar
Worse still are the "Urgent, your machine has a virus..." ads that will NOT give me my computer back without going to "Task Manager" and halting the process... NOT COOL.
If you get rid of this kind of garbage I would consider paying for VIP privileges, however I don't intend to be held hostage to the idea of the current philosophy of "pay or risk malicious danger."
software ebook video
Nice software - you easily "instruct it" which scripts to allow and which to block for each specific website.
plz if anyone can upload them for me i'd really appreciate it
thanks in advance
I love avaxhome - and I don't care about the banners - NoScript works mostly fine.
but in my point of view you are completely "abusing" so called donations. in simple words I donate something to somebody because I try to give
something back. I will not donate something to NOT see something. I respect your time afford etc. But what about my time ? maybe you know how
long it takes to create a high quality lossless audio and I am not earning a cent with this. I just try to keep this site alive and to motivate
other peoples to do the same...
don't sell your soul
The posting guidelines of AvaxHome seem pretty fascist to me. So much complications and limitations make posting really not an amusing thing. An example: What the fuck for are there colors in the text editor if we can't use them in the post? Let me tell you, that's not a good place to post something with a personal and unique content.
IF
they stop stealing my work and letting other companies that I'm sure are part of avax partners steal my RS files. I DON'T MIND others P2P the contents but not so blatantly.
I believe the "DOWNLOAD FAST" link RIGHT UNDERNEATH is an insult to the person that's posting-even with the "ADV> <ADV".
This are not fair proceedings.
They confuse the downloader and make you look bad.
What's wrong with just having normal ads, providing a good solid service and trusting your users to do the right thing?
Every 5 minutes there is a host of FLASH script errors and pages pop up and pages dissapear, makes me wonder what exactly you admins are trying to do.
If you relax your add structure a bit and got rid of the scripts (I mean you have a whopping 26+ running at once!!!) and made the VIP terms a bit more attractive, then perhaps you would get more people donating, but as it stands, you ask for too much and your too agressive with your adds.
You practically bully people into paying. That's not a good sign of a healthy community. You have to build your community with trust, not by force.
I love this site and I have a huge amount of respect for it's uploaders and to the admins for structuring such a fine site. But i do not like been pushed around, i'm sure most would agree.
Keep up the good work and please reconsider yoour current stance on everything I have said.
how can i upload files in AvaxHome??
Thanks a lot to the team for the very good and sustained job.
Today, something change in AH.
The "http://AH.ws/search" is not available anymore. It gives the following message :
"Requested page was not found - Try browsing by categories or using search."
It was a whole lot easier than the "Search" box or the "Browse by category" feature as it gave the same output as a standard AH page formatted with images and details.
The "Browse by category" is a good thing when you don't know the name of the product you are looking for.
The "Search" is a pale imitation of what the "http://AH.ws/search" was doing
I know that this is the VIP type of forum but I found no other place for this post.
Anybody's comment ?
Thanks.