Sayings By Imam Ali

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Thanks but this book attributed to al imam Ali is written after 3 century after his death by charif Radi, so how can you say these paroles belong to Ali, due to this discontinuity.

Thanks but this book attributed to al imam Ali is written after 3 centuries after his death by charif Radi, so how can you say these paroles belong to Ali, due to this discontinuity.

Thanks but this book attributed to al imam Ali is written after 3 centuries after his death by charif Radi, so how can you say these paroles belong to Ali by considering this discontinuity?

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Salaam. Thanks for this great post. I wish you continue this.

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Ebrahim

Thanks Sarmad228 great post, God bless you. To Oussama, charif Radi collect these sayings from many memorisers & papers then put it in one book. Beside that, charif Radi is kinsman to imam Ali (A.S), accually he is the 10th grandson to imam in genealogical tree. Every body know that this noble family is the same family whom born Prophet Mohammad (S)

Salamu Alaikum

To all Muslim brothers, and nonmuslims who'd like to learn about Islam:

Don't waste your time listening to deviant, misguided Shia;

Shia are NOT muslim; and Ali Ben Abi Talib is innocent of them. It's as simple as that.

Learn more (English):

http://www.allaahuakbar.net/shiites/index.htm

For Matawakkil,
When are you people going to change? It is 2006. When are you going to judging people and beliefs? Listen, Stick to your beliefs and strive on becoming a better person and a better Muslim and leave the Shia to do the same and then say ‘Peace upon you’ “Salam Alykom because only then there will be peace. As far as http://www.allaahuakbar.net/shiites/index.htm is concerned, this is not a site created by god. Someone who is as hating to Shia as you are wrote this. So what do you expect?
For “Shia is not Muslim”, I have to leave that to god to decide. I only know one thing for sure; you concern yourself with things that don’t affect you. Whether Shia are Muslims or not has noting to do with you, Get life.

For Non-Muslims,
read the book if you like the morals inside it then use it in your life to be a better person if you don’t like them then it is just another book on the E-shelve 

Peace “A real one not like Matawakkil’s”

@oussama:
Let me add to your knowledge that Sahi Bukari and all the books of Hadith were also written by Imam Bukhari and Imam Shafi 2 centuries after the death of the beloved Prophet (PBUH). In that regard Nahajul Balagha's authanticity is more superier as it has been passed down by the family of the Prophet (PBUH), a family upon which you pay DURUD o Salam in every one of your prayers. On the contrary Imam Bukhari and Imam Shafai although great scholars were not from the Prophet's family.

@mutawakkil
Nobody spoke about shia here only ALI (a.s) is mentioned and if his name gives you the perception of the Shia then what a great honour for them. I too would like to be called shia as if it associates me to an Imam who could never have an equal in religion. It would have been better if you had read the sayings I have quoted above some of which fit you:

"One who says unpleasant things about others, will himself quickly become a target of their scandal."

"A fool's mind is at the mercy of his tongue and a wise man's tongue is under the control of his mind."

To Mr. Sarmad228, I want to remind you that Sahih al boukhari (and other books of Hadith), was written by al boukhari. If you open each book of Hadiths, each Hadith contains two parts: (1st part) is called "sanad" that is mean the sequence of men who reported this Hadith from al boukhari (or other or Moslim and others) to the companion of the Prophet Mohammed, (2nd) is "al matn" that's mean the phrases cited by the Prophet. So, for that reason we have a science of "men", this science is interested in the study of the state of those men cited in each hadith. Example of Hadith: (this is the "assanad")" Al imam Maalik according to Azzinad according to al aaraj says: I've heard Abou houraïra saying": The prophet says:" each one talks when the preacher during the speech of joumou3a, its joumou3a is not accepted" (this is an example of "al matn"). To say that this hadith is authentic "Sahih" the men who was reported the hadith is examined, if for example each man of the sequence had met the other, and if each man applied Islam correctly and didn't belong to other sects of Islam, like shia or khawarij etc...

This science is called "al jarh wa atta3del" and is a very objective science.

Now, all theologians of Islam were agree that all hadiths in the books of al Boukhari and Moslim are "Sahih" authentic. But, in other books of Hadiths, may contain authentic and non-authentic Hadiths.

But concerning the book of nahjul balagha, doesn't contain any "sanad", the author of the book after More than 3 centuries, says that the paroles in his book belong to Ali, so this is illogic. The fact that he's of the family of the prophet doesn't signify anything, because neither me or you or other can remind of the saying of his grand-father.

Excellent!! and many thanks Sarmad228.

@oussama
I will explain the thing to you but let me clerarify what you are saying that a Technique created by a man to collect the Hadith called the "Science of Hadith Collection" in the 3rd century Hijah is more authantic to you than a book passed down by a family who has given their Nobel Blood in the way of Islam, you cannot even get a prayer accepted without saying Durood over them, the AAl-e-Muhammad (PBUH). To me even a single person of Ahlul Bayt, without using any science if claims that something is true I will believe it is, for their superimacy in religion caused by their Taqwa could not be challenged, for the undouted Imam of this time, Imam Mahdi is and will be from this family. An Imam who will show the supremacy of this holy family by leading Jesus in Prayer.
A little look at the Histroy will tell you the following:

Al-Bukhari, of Sahih Al-Bukhari, 194-256H: "7275 Hadith (2712 Non-duplicated) out of 600,000"
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Collected the Hadith over a period of many years, having established certain strict criteria. Political times were very troublesome especially against Ahlul Bayt (during Al-Mutawak'kil's rulership), therefore Bukhari was circumspect, having mentioned less about Ahlul Bayt's narrations than others of the Al-Sihaah Al-Sittah. Of the 2210 Hadiths claimed to have been narrated from A'isha, Bukhari and Muslim accepted only 174 as genuine according to their criteria4.
Muslim, of Sahih Muslim, 204-261H : "9200 Hadith (4,000 Non-duplicated) out of 300,000"
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It is said he was student of Al-Bukhari and 8 years younger. He differed from Bukhari in his methodology and criteria. He collected the Hadith over a number of years, having established his own criteria. Political times were less troublesome against Ahlul Bayt, (after Al-Mutawak'kil was killed by his own son), therefore Muslim narrated a large number of Hadiths about Ahlul Bayt.

So you see even the student of Imam Bukari did not agree with his logic. But I don't want to proof here that Nahajul Balagha is right and Sahi Bukari is wrong. There are many correct Hadith in Shai Bukhari and Muslim too but thier authanticity is not greater than Nhajul Balagha. The book is the Peak OF Eloquance in itself. Its words are its proof. Everything in it, its language is which is the second best Arabic Litratue after Quran is a proof in itself.
And above all their were no 600,000 sayings attrebuted Ali of which one had to choose a few. It was passed as is by the family of the Prophet (PBUH) under the supervision of great Imams like Imam Jafar Saadiq (A.S) to whoom were the great students like Imam Abu Hanifa and Imam Shafai.
Both Sunni and Shia scholars believe in the authanticity of Nahaj-ul-Balagha. Its only when sunni scholoars are asked about Ali's (a.s) talk against ma'wia the father of yazeed they become silent...

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Dr. Sarmad

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