Nick Drake - A Treasury (2004) [SACD 24/96 Rip]

Posted By : LezDawson | Date : 21 Jun 2010 19:25:44 | Comments : 29 |

While there was no shortage of Nick Drake collections on the market by 2004, the options for Drake fans with high-end stereo systems and/or SACD players was pretty limited (that is to say non-existent) before the release of A TREASURY. A hybrid disc remastered in Super Audio stereo and surround sound, it offers 15 cuts from the Drake catalogue; considering that he only released three official albums between 1969 and his death in 1974, that's a healthy chunk of the British singer/songwriter's oeuvre.

With unprecedented crisp quality, we're given masterfully orchestrated folk-rock ("Hazey Jane II," "Northern Sky"), bleak, strikingly minimalist, haiku-like solo-acoustic pieces ("Pink Moon," "Black Eyed Dog"), and lush, mournfully elegant ballads ("River Man," "Way to Blue"). Throughout, Drake's hushed, breathy voice, nimble João Gilberto-meets-John Fahey guitar work, and hauntingly beautiful lyricism shine through, making it clear why this doomed troubadour's slim repertoire has been revisited so many times over the years.
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Personnel:
Nick Drake (vocals, guitar)
Richard Thompson (guitar)
Claire Lowther (cello)
Robert Kirby (strings, brass)
Ray Warleigh (alto saxophone)
John Cale (piano, celesta, organ)
Chris McGregor (piano)
Dave Pegg (bass instrument)
Danny Thompson (double bass)
Dave Mattacks, Mike Kowalski (drums)
Rocki Dzidzornu (congas)
Doris Troy, Pat Arnold (background vocals).

Tracklist
01. Introduction
02. Hazy Jane II
03. River Man
04. Cello Song
05. Hazy Jane I
06. Pink Moon
07. Poor Boy
08. Magic
09. Place to Be
10. Morthern Sky
11. Road
12. Fruit Tree
13. Black Eyed Dog
14. Way To Blue
15. From The Morning

Ripping Gear And Software

PLEASE BEWARE THE 24-BIT FLAC WILL NOT SPLIT WITH CUETOOLS. FOOBAR IS RECOMMENDED FOR THIS PURPOSE. MEDIEVAL CUESPLITTER IS NOT RECOMMENDED DUE TO INACCURACIES.

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Posted By: Kel bazar Date: 21 Jun 2010 19:44:26

Thanks for this gem!!!

Posted By: wersollsschonsein Date: 21 Jun 2010 19:46:43

Cheers from Eire. & I hope this will be a FUCKING (to stay with your language) reasonable quality!

Posted By: Poppeye Date: 21 Jun 2010 21:30:46

Actually, SACD is always 24/88.2, not 24/96. The digital rip in 24/88.2 was done by the HiResOrNothing group. So, you've either got the technical details slightly wrong here (and forgot to include some credits), or someone has done upsampling of that rip which would slightly degrade the quality.

Posted By: Canardo Date: 21 Jun 2010 21:31:24

I know this CD well and I always thought it sounded pretty good. But... your rip is superior!! (clear enough :) )
One thing, am I the only one having troubles with the cue sheet?

Anyway, thank you for all your good work (love your xrcd's)

Posted By: Archimago Date: 22 Jun 2010 00:16:52

Poppeye:
What are ya talking about? SACD is DSD. Does not correlate 1:1 with any PCM sampling rate.

Posted By: Dr. Robert Date: 22 Jun 2010 01:05:31

This is an analog out capture that was done at 24/96.

LD thanks for sharing.

Posted By: capt.evil1 Date: 22 Jun 2010 01:06:02

"One thing, am I the only one having troubles with the cue sheet?"

I am, it won't split into individual tracks for some reason.

Posted By: rohitbhalla Date: 22 Jun 2010 09:03:38

Good to see the UK Verion with the 16th track - Plaisir D'amour! a 45 second odd fingerpicking instrumental!

thanks for the post! I have the USA version SACD with 15 tracks and i am grabbing this donwload for the 16th track!

Posted By: LezDawson Date: 22 Jun 2010 12:13:27

@ Poppeye: Sorry my frind, but you're talking absolute unfounded bullshit. SACD is 1 bit (yes, you read that right - 1 bit!) and a ridiculously high sample rate. It cannot be ripped digitally (and if it could it would still need converting to a useable format). This was ripped by ME from the analogue ports (as all SACDs are). I even included all the ripping stats in my post, so what the hell do you mean to imply I may have forgotten to include some credits? Dick head.

@ wersollsschonsein: You're fucking welcome my friend! ;)

Posted By: cajunwizard Date: 22 Jun 2010 12:14:48

For the people having trouble with the cue sheet not working properly: Google and download a tiny freeware program called Medieval Cue Splitter. It will split the cue sheet. Works in seconds on a 2CD cue.

Posted By: LezDawson Date: 22 Jun 2010 12:50:59

@ cajunwizard: Medieval Cue Splitter is crap - it actually deletes samples, it is so inaccurate as a splitter. There's been loads of discussion on this
throughout the net. :)

Best tool (IMO) to use for splitting FLAC24s is good old Foobar. Don't try and use CUETools - it only works for 16-bit files.

Posted By: ManWhoCan Date: 22 Jun 2010 16:40:56

Thanks Lez for this analogue rip of yours, all credit due to you for doing this, it is very time consuming, isn't it?
As a member of the HiResOrNothing group, I know this has been ripped **digitally** in surround and I will make it available, through one or another of the regular quality posters on Avax, in maybe a week's time.

Posted By: audiophillos Date: 22 Jun 2010 17:34:36

I've "ripped" a number of SACDs with my M-Audio Microtrack II 24/96 recorder. Works like a charm, sounds wonderful.

Posted By: Poppeye Date: 22 Jun 2010 19:59:50

@Lez
We seem to be talking about different things here, me, about the properties of a digital SACD rip, you about the SACD properties itself.
I have to confess I didn't know there was an analogue rip out, so props to you... of course, no comparison to any digital rip but still great for the community.

Posted By: Arend Date: 22 Jun 2010 20:24:11

Thank you LezDawson for this SACD-rip; it is a fine album and a
good introduction to the work of Nick Drake!

Posted By: LezDawson Date: 23 Jun 2010 06:22:36

Actually, Poppeye you said:

"Actually, SACD is always 24/88.2, not 24/96."

Now, either you were referring to the "properties" of SACD, or you meant there was an international law that states SACDs will always be ripped at 24/88.2.
Look, even "digital rips" of SACDs are not true straight digital rips. There is some conversion and re-sampling going on because the original data cannot be accessed directly from the disc (unless you have a modified SACD player which will output the original 1-bit stream through the digital output).

"I have to confess I didn't know there was an analogue rip out"
Well there wasn't until I made it and put it out. Please point to a genuine digital SACD rip of this album. Just a link will do, then we can all compare.

"of course, no comparison to any digital rip"
You really have no idea do you! But again, give us a link (or post it yourself) and we can all compare, can't we.

Remember, so-called "digital rips" of SACDs are nothing like digital rips of DVDAs (those are true exact digital copies). SACDs whether recorded on a digital recorder from the digital output, or on a digital recorder from the analogue outputs, are CONVERTED, and not the original data.

Posted By: Poppeye Date: 23 Jun 2010 12:21:07

Sigh. I admit I was too quick with my original comment, assuming you would repost someone else's work. Well, sometimes wrong assumptions come back to bite you in the ass. However, here's the info about the digital rip, I won't post a link because you obviously have no access to that site since you didn't know about it:

Nick Drake - A Treasury (5.1/2.0 digital SACD rip 24/88.2)
Издатель: Universal-Island Records / B0003518-36
Жанр: folk, rock
Год выпуска диска: 2004
Продолжительность: 0:52:11
Формат: Цифровой pип SACD в формат DVD-Audio: MLP 5.1/2.0 - 24/88.2
Формат файла: ISO image (DVD5)
Примечание: Без водяных знаков / Not watermarked
Трэклист:
1. Introduction
2. Hazey Jane II
3. River Man
4. 'Cello Song
5. Hazey Jane I
6. Pink Moon
7. Poor Boy
8. Magic
9. Place To Be
10. Northern Sky
11. Road
12. Fruit Tree
13. Black Eyed Dog
14. Way To Blue
15. From The Morning
Доп. информация:
Скриншот (Меню)
Спектрограммa (Lf)
Трансфер аудио:
Modified Oppo-DV980H (3 x stereo coaxial S/PDIF) -> 3 x M-Audio Delta 1010LT -> Adobe Audition -> SurCode MLP Encoder -> DiscWeder Chrome II -> DVD-A iso

За SACD pип спасибо: HiResOrNothing
Пeреобразовано DVDfun' ом

Posted By: tastyfreeze Date: 23 Jun 2010 14:15:56

Link to the site Poppeye is referring to:
http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2993540
It's in Russian, but with a little effort very navigatible
(such a word?:)

Posted By: grill Date: 23 Jun 2010 20:06:10

Folx, take it easy, relax and enjoy this music.
grill (DVDfun)

Posted By: kobaha Date: 29 Jun 2010 04:52:51

thanks for sharing.

Posted By: Lay-gouveia Date: 30 Jun 2010 08:17:00

Please could someone upload the SACD Getz / Gilberto?!
It would be wonderful
Thanks.

Posted By: LezDawson Date: 24 Jul 2010 22:09:56

@ Popeye: I rest my case. The "digital rip" you refer to has in effect been converted TWICE! Once by the SACD player internally (converting the 1-bit format to PCM format in order to output digitally) and then the ripper has converted it again from wav to DVDA format! Mine, on the other hand, has been output through audiophile analogue cables and recorded straight to WAV - and that's it! OK, so it's compressed to FLAC, but that is completely non-destructive.
Don't worry about your hasty comment - we've all done it, and been bitten on the arse! ;)

Posted By: TargetD Date: 14 Sep 2010 21:18:54

Perfect - good quality source and educational material too :)

Posted By: Sartre Date: 24 Feb 2011 04:59:52

Lez, PCM WAV to DVD-A (MLP) is a lossless conversion. WAV files aren't analog, either, so your DSD signal has to undergo conversion through DACs, go through the cables as an analog signal, and then be sampled by ADCs to be converted to PCM data, a path almost guaranteed to add more noise and distortion than a direct dsd-pcm conversion.

Posted By: LezDawson Date: 24 Feb 2011 20:45:09

@ Sartre: to be fair, you are correct - WAV to DVA-A is lossless. Unfortunately my player (NAD T585) does not output SACD material through digital output. SACD outputs through analogue only.

Posted By: StoneMagnet Date: 12 Sep 2011 14:28:25

I converted the flac to 48kHz 16bit. I always do this because I don't believe in the advantage of 96kHz and 24bit. After converting the file, it successfully splitted with the Medieval splitter. Only 4 milliseconds got lost.

Posted By: LezDawson Date: 12 Sep 2011 21:30:08

@ StoneMagnet: Some people don't "believe" in the advantage of lossless either. Why not just go the whole hog and convert to 128k MP3? You probably won't tell the difference! ;)

Posted By: StoneMagnet Date: 14 Sep 2011 01:59:15

Some people don't believe in sarcasm. :p No but really, it's quite common belief that there's no audible difference between red book and high resolution audio for most people, while the difference between 128K mp3 and lossless audio is quite obvious. So your remark is a bit silly. But anyway thanks for sharing this beautiful music! :)

Posted By: LezDawson Date: 15 Sep 2011 22:29:04

Yeah, there are lots of common beliefs, and you're entitled to yours. I would suggest that if you can't tell the difference then your system is not very revealing.

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