The Rolling Stones - Beggars Banquet [Universal Japan 200g LP] Definitive Master vinyl rip in 24/96 & 16/44.1

Wuaw, fantastic, so clear, detailed and with a great soundstage.
Far more superior than the other rips.
Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!

thank you for this post. I look forward to comparing it to the other versions

Excellent! Best sounding rip of this all-time classic album I've found yet... THANKS!

If you have a similar quality rip of Let It Bleed, you'd really make my day! :-)

Thank you aksman. But I'd like to offer some constructive criticism. With all the money you've spent on your rig(s), I think it's time for you to spend a little more money on original pressings.

This sounds nothing like the original. It sounds like a dull, lifeless "copy". You have spent thousands of dollars on equipment. I'd REALLY like to see you spend a little more $$$ on original pressings.

If you search avax for "rolling stones beggars vinyl" you'll find my original (stereo) pressing rip. Unfortunately my rip sounds a bit "Hard" and "Brittle". But that's because my rig sucks. I'm using a $100 shure. An original pressing on your rig would "kill".

Please understand I love you and your work but, I think it's time for you to stop spending $4'000 on new cartridges and blow a few hundred bucks on some "real" vinyl.

Just my thoughts.

Thanks again for all you do.

t.

I agree, Pbthal's rip of the original stereo pressing is superior to my ears. Do not underestimate the power of the SOURCE!! :D

Edit:dupe .

First off delayed Thanks aksman... busy weekend :)

@ Tubert: First off your comment calls goodkat & freedom2 a liar. Secondly you have nothing to compare too, just empty words.

Bring you Original pressing recording (that doesn't suck) and let us decide. Otherwise say thanks and move on.

0pp0

tubert: exactly my thoughts, really prefer origs over audiophile remasters. Some remaster beats the original but certainly not all !!!

Ok lets bring pat out,

A few of us believe he is EQ's his stuff.

After comparing wav files. His highs are gone and the midrange is pushed.

There I said it. Not saying it did not sound good. Just saying.

Who is 'a few of us'? I have never encountered anyone believing this- not after having their accusation shot down by Pb himself.

@OppO

I'm trying to be polite. I gave aksman full respect because he deserves it. I also didn't call goodkat & freedom2 "liars". I simply suggested that an original pressing ripped by aksman would "kill". I would bring more to the table if I could afford it. As it is, all I can offer is my original rip. Have you listened to it?

It has more detail than the Japanese reissue but suffers from the use of inferior equipment. I respect everybody's opinion especially when it comes to my own rips. I'm doing everything I can to make my rips better with what I have to work with and constructive criticism is always welcome (please add comments about my rips in *my* posts).

The only point I was trying to make is that I think aksman may be spending more money than he needs too trying to make these 180g reissues sound better when original pressings might blow his (and our) mind(s).

It's just my opinion and I offer it with all due respect to everybody who has ever spent 4 hours "editing" a 35 minute LP. This includes you. I have downed and enjoyed some of your rips. This isn't a "pissing" contest. But wouldn't you die to hear aksman rip an original Decca "Beggars"? I would.

t.

0pp0: wtf are you talking about, I have several rips of the same pressing by pbthal and other people and it doesn't sound like EQed at all... just the mastering work.
Compare kind of blue classic pbthal/aksman, just to hear that the highs are gone and the midrange pushed....
but maybe you were'nt talking about pbthal...

@ tubert

I own an original uk stereo pressing of "Beggars Banquet" and the differences between it and the japanese re-issue are so extreme that you can hear it even integrated laptop speakers... Especially in this case the original sound dull & flat while this japanese LP is airy & clean with a sensational soundstage and depht.

Really surprising me that you didn' recognize it.

Regarding the differences between original pressings and re-issues I agree with you. Some originals are better if they are in mint condition (good luck to find them) some are not... When I review my last 50 rips I found that 20 of them been original pressings and 30 re-issues. Not a bad quote IMO.

However, it is my philosophy to post rips of LP's which I like. I never said I will post only the best sounding records. If there are better sounding versions, no prob for me. Go for it!
For records which are in-print I want to give anybody the chance to check if they are worth to buy.

@aksman. Thank you for pointing this out. "Really surprising me that you didn' recognize it". Mine is a US "London" pressing. I've never heard a "Decca" pressing unless I have an old pbthal 16bit rip lying around. It's not unusual for the US versions to be "remastered" for the US market. Even though this album has the same track listing, they still did "stuff" to the US copies.

The US "Aftermath" has different tracks but the songs that are the same are still mixed differently. Some are even slower than the UK versions.

Thank you for being such gentleman, respecting my onion and providing details about the UK Decca Vs. the reissue. Now, do you have a Decca "Let It Bleed"? I do. Unfortunately it has a scratch all the way through the second half of side two even click repair can't fix. I think it's a monster recording.

Once again you have my total respect and appreciation. Thank you for sharing so much music.

}---:)

So I check out avax and see I have a few private messgaes so I'm thinkin, cool someone commented on my new rips, but nooooooooooo, I get led over here to the latest Avax audiofool conspiracy. First it was me ripping CD's and passing them off as vinyl rips, now it is that I EQ and that this EQing cause me to have no highs. What the fuck, I got half the Internet screaming my rips are bright and now a "contingent" <cough allegedly> that thinks the highs are gone...make up your frikkin mind people. I don't EQ, have never EQ'd, except for a brief flirtation with the Izotope harmonic exciter many years ago before I released anything.

You do realize I changed my cartridge, my preamp and have a SUT, and I changed my resample/dither settings...or did that shit just go unnoticed by "the few of you" critically trained powers of observation.

And since you brought this "out" who are the other morons in this witch hunt?

The trolls are out badger baiting. LOL
Best not take it too seriously.
Please don't get in a fight over it, just ain't worth it.
Please, all rippers continue to rip, in any way you want to rip on whatever you have available to rip with and I for one will be most grateful for all you post.

Send Your album to Me, I will send to Aksman, In turn Aksman will send back to you.
No "morons" here.

Just Friendly "Russian Roulette"

@manwhocan,

We just want what Lennon wanted... TRUTH

I have no idea what that would prove but I can make it real easy for you and the rest of the morons. Here is the first part of Tea For The Tillerman off Doc Rob's LP, both aksman and Doc have done the same LP, you and the CSI-Avax group knock yourself out

http://www.mediafire.com/?gtv1izxkua91zbz

pbthal said,
"First it was me ripping CD's and passing them off as vinyl rips, now it is that I EQ and that this EQing cause me to have no highs".

I'd like to say something. Aksman, pbthal, soa, enhomonica are all world class peeps. In fact, every vinyl ripper I've spoken to on avax is a class act. But these rumors about pbthal need to stop. I have many of the same original "classic rock" pressings he has. I've even done a few rips with more bass than him but they lack the transparency he gets from his rig. Fact of matter is, his linear tracking table is a MONSTER!

The rest of us are using "broken clocks". They're correct twice a day. Pbthal's linear tracker is correct "24/7". Deal with it.

t.

Just something i've learned long time ago : don't say shit until it's not shit

OH my god... just ignore the trolls.

@ tubert

first of all, thank you and thanks to pbthal, 0pp0, aksman, dr.robert, garybx... providing me with so much fantastic music. your work is so valuable to me.
but in this case, I have to confirm that to my ears, with my equipment, this aksman rip is in every aspect much better than all the other rips I've found here.

enjoy the music, be happy, love and peace to everyone.

I agree with Tubert. So far I've only noticed the difference in sound on a great team, stratospheric, I would say is Globalbee3 team. I think with a needle of 150 euros is more than enough to get a decent rip. Spending more money to get a 5 percent accuracy is not worth it. Keep in mind that most of the original editions we handle are very old and very used. A needle of thousands of dollars working on worn grooves is something pathetic and over if the end result is subject to wear ClickRepair program. A long time ago trying to get early editions of the great rock recordings of the seventies and just as I look hard capsule uploader.

The same pbthal acknowledgment of the issue when he explains the meaning of their Ultimate Masters.

"I'd like to say something. Aksman, pbthal, soa, enhomonica are all world class peeps. In fact, every vinyl ripper I've spoken to on avax is a class act. But these rumors about pbthal need to stop. I have many of the same original "classic rock" pressings he has. I've even done a few rips with more bass than him but they lack the transparency he gets from his rig. Fact of matter is, his linear tracking table is a MONSTER!"

Amen to that!!! His latest "Breakfast in America" rip made me cream in my jeans...'nuff said!

I' ve made some same rip than pbthal and they sound about the same except the rig. So, he never EQ is rips !!!

ALL YOU STUPID TROLLS bad-mouthing PB , should just go and kill yourselves.

A few less idiots in an already over-crowded planet.

seriously guys , GO KILL YOURSELF.you'll be doing the thinking minority a HUGE FAVOUR.

thankx to pb/aksman/doc and whoever rips albums for all of us , the quality may vary but he dedication and sharing don't.

Cheers.

PS : Pb , don't waste your energy with all these stupid trolls . Thanx for everything.

It's a shame that someone with the experience and knowledge of our recently returned expert doesn't have better grasp of humility. "People skills" go a long way on the path to winning hearts and minds. In a setting where this expert could enjoy "real" loyalty, they reduce them self to the chimes of the sycophants. In a setting where their talent and experience could raise the bar significantly, their pride and personality flaws result in the opposite. Well done.

Four signs of an inflated ego:

1) You find yourself being defensive. Defending ideas ultimately turns into becoming defensive.
2) You continually compare yourself to others. In truth, being too competitive actually makes you less competitive.
3) You seek acceptance to justify your ego needs. You crave respect and recognition from others, which eventually interferes with your success.
4) You make a point of showcasing your brilliance.

Lastly, name calling is the last refuge of a desperate mind. I believe this expert is better than that, why resort to childish behavior? If this hobby causes so much repeated anguish, so much as to bring about the abhorrent behavior displayed in this thread, why present offerings to an open forum, where the feedback may not always be positive? The answers to those questions can be found within the four signs listed above...

Breathe in, breathe out. If you're not having fun, you're doing it wrong. If your motivation is truly about the music, who cares what people think? The only one you have to impress is yourself. Externalizing your emotions leaves you open to ridicule.

Thx for all your thoughts and input about PVR... But this post is about the japanese 200g LP of "Beggars Banquet"

For that reason we should come back to the topic. Thank you!

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, however seems some are 'seriously' in need of assistance in how to express themselves. Here's a helpful link : www.angerplanet.co.uk


Sorry aksman for not adhering to your request for keeping on subject. I had already a different rip of Beggars Banquet - totally happy with it and did not plan to download yours... however, I might give it a try now after the above comments ;)

@Gydeon That's pretty funny, you actually typed that out or do you have a "troll template" so you can just copy and paste? If your post refers to me, I could care less about "winning hearts and minds", I am not running for office and no one here knows me in real life. Someone accused me of something with no evidence, I responded, of course you have no sage words for that person....just your tired Dr. Phil rant at the falsely accused. Stay classy San Diego.

Many thanks, aksman, for this perfect rip of a real milestone of rock music. This rip is one of the best I've ever heard. But there are other ones which belong to the same league. It depends on the master & the pressing & most of all your personal taste.
IMO pbthals Original UK Unboxed Decca & tuberts Original US London have some more highs but the sound is bit thiner. There's also the fine kel bazar 2003 ABKCO Records DSD rip which lies in the middle of those originals & the new japanese pressing. I almost forgot the nice MFSL Collection Millennium Remaster rip. So further listening is needed.

So everyone can make his own choice.

There's only one thing, it's the music that counts.

Again I say thanks to all You hard working, "crazy", dedicated, perfectionists, ambitious needledroppers which share one of the best thing in life with us: music

lplover

p.s. there's a also a "nice" PAX - Tel-Aviv pressing which should be ripped. L-O-L

@ boticario

“

I think with a needle of 150 euros is more than enough to get a decent rip. Spending more money to get a 5 percent accuracy is not worth it.

”

Out of my own experience I can tell you, that you are totally wrong... My previous cart been also not a cheap one and I really liked the sound. But after changing to my new rig it is like to play 3 classes higher in the top league.

Those few missing percents make the difference between hearing music and enjoying music.

Like with every other thing in life the last few percents are the most expensive ones. If it is worth everyone has to decide for himself.

Aksman, thanks for this fantastic rip. It's very clean with detailed highs, strong bass, and great soundstage.

Would be interesting to hear your rip of the original stereo pressing tubert mentions - but based on what I've heard of his rip and yours here, I can't imagine the London's dynamics could match up to this. Thanks again!

Also, pbthal doesn't EQ his rips. It's not a debate whether or not he does: it's a totally baseless claim that he does, vs the truth that he doesn't. There are plenty of identical masterings/pressings that both he and another ripper (aksman, Doc Rob, whomever) have done, and pb's don't sound at all EQ'd in comparison.

Great work aksman!Thanks!I wish you hours of joy listening to music on your new rig! cheers

Thank You for an excellent rip.Thank all of you guys for your hard work. I really appreciate the music.

@ aksman

A good audio equipment must have a good sound card. Some of our biggest rippers forget about it and also the ASIO drivers. I would recommend the RME Fireface 400 sound card. Right now I'm waiting for the Asus Xonar Essence STX, more modest, but impressive results.

@ boticario

True words. There is one bottleneck in the setup of ALL vinyl rippers... The ADC! Of course a 200€ ADC can't capture the whole beauty of the analogue sound. The gap was there also on my old setup but now it is much bigger. Unfortunately good ADC are expensive... I hope I can do an upgrade here, but it hasn't the highest priority for me.

This Banquet makes me want to dance. No other rip of this album has ever effected me this way. Thank you Aksman. I love all you vinyl guys.

Many thanks aksman, sounds just great, wonderful job.

Thanks Aksman,