AvaxHome Talks - ARCHIVE 0101 - Talks about AvaxHome

To have at least 1 comment, here is the last request:


Posted By: jantine Date: 18 Aug 2007 12:25

About the Soul of Avaxhome

Perhaps it's a good idea to open a discussion on top op AH ...where Avaxhomers can tell there own private view and opinion and there own ideas about bringing back the Soul of Avaxhome. and what perhaps should be done ;-)

That´s really something i miss here ..a place where we can talk..

Excellent move to open a free speech forum.
Thanks Guys !

Dunno what to say ;)
I really like AvaxHome! Here you can find great music and not only for the teenager. A great place for jazz, classical music, jpop, oldies, folk, world etc.
I do thank for every download i make, but here's one big thanks for everyone who makes AvaxHome possible. :)))

Ahhhhhhh Great!!!!!!!!! me and my big mouth :-))) but it's Ok...i guess :-(

What i think is that a free speech thread like this really can be usefull and to bring ideas to bring the Soul of avaxhome back.
I only hope I'm not the only one :-)
It's not only about uploading, but just nice talking and joking between Avaxhomers. This can be a start of a better conversation between the members not only complaining about the bad things ;-)


Grtjs

It has the potential to be very good - as long as individuals can steer clear of thoughtless polemics

at last am I able to thank all the uploaders for their great and terrific albums and softwarez....earlier on I could not get in the comments to say thank you, very frustrating...but well..hereby...
I think this is a very good enterprise so I hope all the members will use to their and the site's gain...( if I only knew how to upload...feel guilty only downloading all the time...lol...
GREAT SITE (Spasjiwa)

newbie question...

1. I buy a book (ups... ebook).
2. Book with password
3. Then... how to share...?

Hot to bypass the (2.) some light

Here is a question: why almost all downloaders never make a comment to a post?
I think, as Zebrilhas uses to say, the worst thing to an uploader is never knowing if he is sharing to someone or not.
So let's say something when downloading and,... Avax4ever as also says Scarabou.

And here is a suggestion: all music uploaders must specify if the albuns have or not covers.

This is great,finally a place to talk :)) Thank you Bully and thank you jantine for making Bully do this experiment :)

I just hope people WILL talk,we need more LIFE here at AvaxHome :)

@ CavaloSentado

I also wonder that sometimes.I see numberless fantastic publications with one or no comments...that's really a shame.Actually,now most of the comments come when downloaders have some complaint to make :)

And it's not just the problem here on the internet,it's a real-life problem.People nowadays just don't say thank you to each other,they're either too busy or just rude.

It feels good when you see that people actually appreciate your share.So I always thank,after all it takes only a few seconds :)

I also wish to thank EVERYONE here at AvaxHome,all uploaders,all fantastic people,and of course big THANKS to Bully,Avax,Torai,Pasha13 and even TDz :) who are doing such a great job in making AvaxHome a better place for all :)))

I expected a forum. A page like this can get pretty long LOL

@ Lin72

Well,Bully did say it's just a temporary test :)

Maybe someday we can expect a forum,but for now I'm quite happy with this :))

"A page like this can get pretty long"

Hopefully,it will :D

The comment above first was done using this (project)-account and I corrected this mistake.

Due to a funny bug in the AH-software - there are two clocks with a difference of some minutes - the mistake is now shown after the correction :-))

It's nice to see, that here not only is "Free-Speech", here is also "Free correction" allowed - in the threads from torai, the "EDIT"-button allways is disabled so that even a correction of "typos" is impossible.

I see a conflict between the rule of not offending anyone and freedom of speech. You can't have both. This is especially pertinent with anything said against religion and those books that use religion as science. If this rule is enforced than I don't see this section lasting very long.

Haribol! to you all.

Well, for instance, I comment whenever I can - downloading and leeching isn't something I like to do, I really have an extensive archive of music and movies, and I download only rare stuff that I can't really find - and saying thank you to people who, as I do, leave direct links without some link-protecting site (I can't really see the point, as the URL is visible when downloading, and still it will be deleted), and this way I can make use of FlashGot. And I really, REALLY don't see how posting a TXT file with links helps downloaders instead posting these links directly in the first place, EXCEPT greedyness for Rapidshare or some other X-share points.
So much from me. Freedom of speech, eh? :)

I'd like to see a "REQ" or wish list area where people (like me) can post a request for the Encyclopedia Britanica 11th Edition. I've been looking high and low for years now and have not able to find it. I once found a link where you could get it for a few hundred dollars.

This edition was considered the gold standard, and is now public domain. I wish that if someone knew where to find it or has it, that they could post the link/torrent or up it for sharing!

Thanks in advance and keeping fingers crossed for good new some day real soon! (grin)

This is a great idea. Free Talk. I think that could be helpful to indicate that to leave a comment you should first log into avax and to log you have to create a free account. For a new one i think will help. I usually don't post but thinking again i will always give thanks to uploaders for their effort, and to all the people around this page that make it possible to get all this music. My eternal thanks to all of you.

@ hlloyge

Your comment about greediness makes no sense, as a text file will only be a few bytes in size, and nowhere near 1 MB as needed to get any points.

You are right, I've misread the rules on RS. So... what's the point, then?
I really can't see the point. I think we are here to share, not make life difficult to each other :)
Anyhow, I'd like to see the rule to be obigatory to put your files in the folder, than RARing them up and posting them :) it would help a bit.

Hi,
Great idea with this forum!!

Maybe somebody can help me out..I have a RS premium account for a while now ..A couple a days ago i got a message saying that i have downloaded too much in the last five days and it doesn't let me download anything.I 've tried contact RS but with no luck.. Any ideas?

@ Fine: Yup, I saw the links you mentioned, but passed on them. I did see a link back about 2 or so years ago from a site on the web for the 11th Edition, but as I said they offered it on CDs (15 of them I think it was) for somewhere around $500. Passed on that too thinking that I might be able to find it for free some day.

Anyway- I guess the only thing now is to try to get a copy of a more modern version and keep searching for the 11th edition.

Cheers, mate! :)

Great show, hope this stays in the air cause that's what is needed, a place to speak out.

1. "Posted By: Foub Date: 18 Aug 2007 23:36
I see a conflict between the rule of not offending anyone and freedom of speech. You can't have both."
My answer is Yes you can, it is called respect

2. I would like to bring under attention that some of the times there are shares that contain maleware, viruses or trojan. Bad as that is, even if reported those shares don't get killed, is there no one that cares about it. Complaining about it resulted in a response like: Ach well shit happens all the time so why the fuzz?

Hi,
I just started learning Russian couple of weeks ago and looking for quality Russian Language software or any other material. It is not easy to find that kind of stuff in the net. I just could be able to find Rosetta Stone. I am sure there are more really useful softwares. I think avaxhome is one of the most suitable sites to find that kind of educational software. I would be pleased if you post your materials.

Thanks.

Hi everybody,

I read numerous posts about missing comments. IMHO what AvaxHome needs is a "Thank You" button.
so instead of having 100 comments of "thanks" there would be a message "100 people Thanked for this post"
and maybe a rating system...

And sorting out the css (stylesheet) problems with the overlapping divs and edit-boxes
which go waaay out of the page area to the right.

Otherwise, Avax is my favorite site for the last few years, Thanks to the staff and to all who make Avax
the site it is.

Hello everyone!
It's been a while since I started enjoying this site and the things that are for sharing. Thanks everyone for this. Now that we can talk is even better. I read that a lot of people wonder why there is no thanking after a download. Well this depend on the person and his upbringing. Maybe some are afraid to leave a message...who knows.
I would like to make a suggestion. A "report broken links" button is necessary in my opinion to avoid the confusion that exists when you use the search button. Many times I have use it to track down an album and I fell on many dead links. I think this should be a priority for the moderators for a more ergonomic use of space and time.
Talk to you soon!

VERYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ

These areas were created to give you a place to talk to each other. I had not the slightest idea that most talks would be about the too quick selected title "Free Speech" :-)

Why the hell must EVERYTHING at AvaxHome be soooo difficult?

OK, now these pages are called "AvaxHome Talks" and have new pictures. You can also no longer find the "magic" letters "AMC" :-) I did NOT change the URLs to take care for all the members who have bookmarked them.

Feel free to discuss change to other pictures or other titles and tell me your wishes AFTER you found a solution ALL do agree. ;-)

I just want to thank all the great guys who spent so much of their precious time for the good of others.

My special thanks go to Flush, scarabou and others.

@ hlloyge

The point is to try to keep the files alive just that little bit longer. It may be an inconvenience to have to refer to a txt file for the links, but think of how much more of an inconvenience it would be for the uploader to have to reupload a 700 MB archive 2, 3, or more times in order to keep the post active. A person scanning a page looking for links to report wants his job to be easier just like a downloader wants it to be easier. Adding the extra step of a little more time and effort helps the uploader to avoid the need to keep uploading the same archives over and over and allows him to concentrate on other works he would like to be shared.

Hi to all

Avaxhome has and still is (in my opinion and experience) the best around. I enjoy and gain a lot from it.

Sharing files here are now well mixed with various filehosts which include Rapidshare.com, depositfiles, filefactory and others.

Restricting others not to put up mirrors is not and will not benefit the uploaders or posters but only to the few who can download from say depositfiles that is known to be problematic even for its premium account (based on my experience with them).

One can only restrict mirrors from similar filehost and not those wish to make an effort to share the same files through another filehost. Thus, giving more choice to all.

Rapidshare.com (premium) and megaupload.com ( premium ) as well as filefactory.com (premium) are the leaders and there are a handful of "FREE" filehosts that are very good as well.

Again, hope to see each post comes with at least two choices of downloads which can be contributed by mirrors from others.

One other thing, although the spirit of sharing is here, let us not refer this site to every tom, dick and harry.....so as not to choke up the traffic and then no one benefit.

All the best to Avaxhome and its operators and webmasters. Well done and keep it up.

I am grateful to Avaxhome and all the contributors.

Sometime ago I had an application to store all common passwords for rar files published in a site (like avax). Then you could test a password protected rar with all the passwords stored. Do you know that application?. I lost it...

Yes, I am GREEDY, cause I'm one of those uploaders who don't allow mirrors to their posts. But I would be even a lot more greedy if I would mirror every post I see to my own RS Premium account, cause that would give me hundreds of extra RS bonus points that will prolongue my premium account. Will I do that? No, cause I have the decency not to do so. So am I driven by greed to not allow mirroring?
What always strikes me whenever the discussion about mirroring starts again, or when I see a post mirrored, is that the names of the complainers or mirrorers aren't the names I regularly see amongst the uploaders that keep this site alive, to put it mildly. In short: mirroring is probably the worst way of leeching available on this site. Just upload a file you got from a post to a new file sharer where you have a premium account and have others do the work of scanning covers, coding cd's to mp3 or Flac, and making the posts at Avax, sit back lazily and watch your amount of premium points grow. Leecher's heaven must look like this.
So I have some good reasons why I don't allow mirrors. Of course I'd like to be able to download as much as I like from RS (which is the fastest on the uploading and downloading side (up to 1 Mb/s on my broadband connection) as one of the benefits of my premium account. If my sharing files with others can help me to lower the costs of RS, so be it. But that's a nice benefit, not a reason. I don't mind paying the price of one legally bought CD to RS to be able to dl loads of stuff for free. Cause keep in mind that basically and legally all downloaders over here are shoplifters. So are premium members greedy? I don't think so. That term is more appropriate to the freeloaders, who just benefit from Avax, but never give anything in return (also look at the 'thank you in comments' items on this page).
The main reason, however, is that experience has shown that the more mirrors there are, the faster the legal rights KGB and CIA hit back with deleted files. To avoid this other people use txt files in which the links are hidden, hoping to keep them alive much longer. So stop complaining and moaning about having to copy and paste txt files, ore the time you have to wait between two free downloads and keep in mind that even thieves sometimes have to buy their tools or wait for the right moment to do to the burglary.

bearwil nobody cares. No mirrors is is just depriving avaxarians so go away. The justification you posted above is not only ROTFLMFAO Funny its pathetic and nobody falls for it.

Guys thanks to those of you who don't disapprove of mirrors. Thanks for the efforts you put in when you post decent software, not like some that post freeware and incomplete and fake upload titles. That is what will be the death of avaxhome.

The few of you that post for the benefit members, people like torai, gaudeamus, and an ex WBB legend canadianbratboy and of course a few others. are sure to keep this place running like clockwork

As for the rest and you know who you are. Posting fakes, lying in titles, posting FREEWARE just to benefit yourselves is not a community spirit. Please get a grip and stop lowering the grade here.

Bully GREAT job!!! Your heart really is for the people of the people and you belong as an admin here for sure. My Respect to you.

tuc.

@ sinblaster
I hardly visit the software department of Avax, so I don't know anything about posting fakes, lying in titles, or posting FREEWARE just to benefit myself, simply because I BUY proggies I really need or dl freeware directly from it's source to be sure no viruses or other stuff I don't want comes with it. So please don't put me in one line with all of the morons that also use Avax. I use Avax to share and find great music that's hard, or even not, to get on cd.
So my previous comment was meant for people that have enough common sense and the community spirit to realise what great work uploaders do and how much time they invest in it. If you don't appreciate their terms and conditions, it's your problem, but I for instance wouldn't dl the material in such cases, cause you DON"T HAVE TO but MAY profit from their work. And I'm afraid that my remark about complaints that come mostly from leechers or other freeloaders, was quite accurate, cause a search of 20 pages of the software department didn't show any post with your name above it. So keep in mind that leeching is more sinful than sharing and maybe this is a sin to blast.

@BlackwatchPlaid
RIAA's gnomes will download that txt file, read the links and post complaints to RS (or any other filesharing host). There is virtually NO DIFFERENCE if the stuff is hot - it will be removed. You think one txt file will stop them? I don't see how - you presented them with links in one nifty file they can attach in mail :)

@fercho
Read the rules on Rapidshare, it will be all clear, everything is written there.

@BlackwatchPlaid : thanks

this is what i found on rapidshare:

"Which DOWNLOAD RULES have to be followed? (Terms of use)
Free users have to enter some letters before the downloads start in order to have the permission to use the infrastructure of RapidShare for free.
Free users may only download a certain amount of Megabytes per hour. If this amount is exceeded, a message will appear.
If a free user violates this terms of use, RapidShare has the right to permanently ban the free user from the RapidShare network.
People writing programs with the goal to violate our terms of use will be made fully responsible for the financial losses/damages."

I am not a free user ,i have a premium account and use rapget to donwoad

or this other part :

"Your system complaints about that I am already downloading files or that I have already downloaded too much. But I did not download anything! Whats wrong there?

Our system checks your IP-address in order to count the downloads. If you are getting this message and you really did not download anything, then you are using a proxy-server, which is used by other people as well. Even if you have no proxy-server set up in your configuration, there are many providers who force a transparent proxy-servers between you and the net. If you do not believe us, go to other pages telling you your IP-address (for example http://www.myipaddress.com.) But what can you do? You have to disable this proxy-server. If you are not able to disable the proxy-server, the only solution IS a Premium-account. Premium-users are recognized by cookies, not by IP-address. Unfortunately we cannot disable our IP-check, else people would download so much that we would have to close down this service completely. I hope you understand our situation in this matter."

Again ,I have a premium account up to October 2007

Is there another place where i can find the rules ?

The point is that it's been already 3 days (since they blocked me) and i am still blocked from downloading anything..I have sent many emails to support@rapidshare with ZERO answer. I don't know what i did wrong since i thought with the premium account the downloading was unlimited but whatever i did i 'd like to fix it and use my paid premium account.

@ hlloyge

Yes you are correct. It is just one more step for the gnomes to go through. People are lazy when it comes to their jobs quite often, if there is an extra hassle involved, often times they just won't go through the effort. If they are determined, then they will, but if not, then not having direct links on the page they are scanning actually benefitted the uploader. I have seen this work on many occasions, the txt is deleted, but not the links.


@ fercho

from the RS news page:

9. Feb. 2007

The traffic limit of 20 GB has been raised to 25 GB again. Of course we will keep the low prices in the future as well, including new features and more bandwidth. It is important to us that our customers are happy. If you have ideas on how we can improve RapidShare even more, please do not hesitate to write us an e-mail.

30. Jan. 2007

We have decided to keep the prices we have right now. This means that you can purchase your premium accounts or extend your existing accounts by paying much less than in the past. Furthermore we have adjusted the traffic management as well because some people did not understand the old system. Unfortunately a traffic management is necessary to keep the prices we have right now. Within five days you may download 20 GB. For example you may download day by day 4 GB without any interruption. An alternative is that you download 10 GB today, 10 GB tomorrow with a break following the next three days. We think this management is by far more flexible than a strict 4 GB per day rule. We hope you share this opinion with us.


You probably went well above the 25 GB limit for 5 days of downloading. getting alot of files at once will accomplish this, I myself have found myself near 30 GB after a long session. Give it a few days and the number will drop allowing you to download again.

Heres mine: can someone get rid of the stickied threads in music? its annoying.. and there is a search anywayz. why does tom waits need to be at the top all the time? float a div in the sidebar and put them in there, if they really need to be so visible at all. ;^)

BlackwatchPlaid : Thanks ..I wasn't aware ...
I'm going into depressing and allucinating state due to download withdrawl

@ Orbitalis

"can someone get rid of the stickied threads in music?"

As I am the bad guy who takes care to keep them at top of the music section I should answer myself :-)

" its annoying.. and there is a search anywayz. why does tom waits need to be at the top all the time? float a div in the sidebar and put them in there, if they really need to be so visible at all. ;^)"

Did you ever had a closer look on these publications? All of them are no normal publications. They are team projects where many of our members join. They are the last proof that AvaxHome is a community and not a typical warez site for leechers.

The main reasons are:

1. That people SEE them

Each and every day new people come to AvaxHome. They do not know what exists and as even many of our publishers are too lazy to use search :-( most of them will also not search.

And, believe it or not, even our longtime members still do not use the category system. With launch of our new software, TDz had "hidden" the GENRE sections of music below the category genre. To see them, you had just to click on the plus sign in front of it. Easy, yes. But soon we had to recognize that even our publishers did not understand this. More and more publications were created without any checked flags for genre. So I finally moved all the genre entries back to main view. And yes, I did run qick enough to avoid TDz killing me for that ;-)

2. To help members to overcome their lazyness or fear

Many of our members have big problems to finally do the"little" step from downloader to publisher. By joining such a project the team leaders will assist them with their first publications in both technical and psychological needs. Doing something as part of a team is much easier as being brave enough all on your own. ( OK, the AvaxHome Team is the excepton to that rule ;-) )

3. To honor the hard work of these people

It's a little difference if a member uploads 1 album to take active part in AvaxHome or if someone like Flush uploads a 150 CD collection (CLIMAX) or Peetje a 100 CD collection - to give 2 wellknown examples. If people work such hard for AvaxHome, I keep the right to give their work a more prominent place as hiding it inside the about 35.000 music publications we currently have online.


BTW, I already started to move outdated projects to a different place (Old Community pages).

Sorry if it is really such a pain for you to scroll down a bit on first page of music section. I more exspected complaints about the "Best Internet Links" Alex publication on EACH index page ;-))

@ Orbitalis

"can someone get rid of the stickied threads in music?"

OK, to make you fully happy:

Just use the CALENDAR function on left side of each page.

Try it and enjoy the non-annoying pages special for you :-)

http://avaxhome.ws/music/2007/08/21
http://avaxhome.ws/music/2007/08/20
http://avaxhome.ws/music/2007/08/19

and so on. For your needs of quick access to just the newest music publications you only need the url with actual date. Don't trust on the displayed calendar for very new dates - you can force updates by building the url yourself.

Great job, now we can post and our requests!!!

It keeps me laughing:

AvaxHome Admin Date: 21 Aug 2007 16:36
Trojan Alert: All files and the archives you get from AvaxHome have Trojans inside. Actually we change the signature every hour so NO scanner will detect it. Just ignore and install all the software you download from us! We take your computer for our botnet that is all. We won't take your money we promise we are good boys!

This "AvaxHome Admin" must be a funny guy...

Maybe I should create a new account: "AvaxHome Webmaster" ;-)

@ mex

"AvaxHome Admin" already banned from AvaxHome

Same guy was banned before under different usernames ... Perhaps we should do a trace and talk to his ISP about SPAM ;-)

@ bully:
and the judge said: I declare you guilty for spamming a pirate site... !
Sounds more than nice...;-)

I only hope, that noone really believed this so called admin...
Maybe it would be better, if noone would be able to create an account with the word avaxhome in it.
There always will be someone out there believing in what he/she reads/sees.

For all others:

RIAA admin:
All music on AH is fake !
Second note in first guitar solo is played as a C, while original note played in guitar solo is D.

Or:
Don´t download this Deep Purple album: It contains drunken Billy the Willy as a singer.
But don´t bother: we are nice people, if Billy the Willy really gets hired by Deep Purple we´ll share the bucks with you, dear downloader....

@ mexgoogle

"and the judge said: I declare you guilty for spamming a pirate site... !"

You do not need a judge for such cases. Large ISPs in countries like USA or Germany are menawhile very sensitive for SPAM reports ...

BTW: AvaxHome is an enhanced form of google, no pirate site ;-)

(pensive) Gentlemen!

Do you think what we should open a forum or something similar?

@bully:
AvaxHome is an enhanced form of google, no pirate site ;-)

yep, you´re absolut right.
Avax: best search engine ever !!! (results garanteed)

So, i clicked this google announcement (make 87 millions with google-ads) - and now I need info about your bank account - I want to send you 30 Millions.

Oops, now I see the different between Google and Avax:
Avax keeps what they promise...

@avax
It is nice to have it, but I do not need it.
Less in the current state - large list.

Хорошо иметь это, но я не нуждаюсь в этом.
Меньше в текущем состоянии - большом списке.

I hope, your translator is better than mine.
Great job, thanks.

@ Bully

Wasnt trying to complain, just offer some idea about how to make it better here. As a web designer it is something i would do. I agree they are special threads, thats why i would put them in a special area.. like in the side bar, with custom banner links to each thread. i could make the banners if needed. the part that is annoying is that after the stickied thread on the first page, you see some posts. then click on the next page, you see what you already saw on the first page, minus the stickies. So basically the first two pages are mostly empty (if you are here regularly).

But all in all, a small criticism for a great site.

@ Orbitalis

The problem you describe (repeating publications on new index pages) has nothing to do with sticky publications - you will find it in any section, even on main page. It is a technical problem resulting of the new logic index pages are treated and created in our new software. It is the "price we pay" for getting rid of 502 errors :-)

If more than 5 people really want to know more about this topic with index pages, I'm willing to explain it in full. Yep, hehe, I know that this will not happen with Avaxians :-)) They are even too lazy to answer Avax's simple question ...

What is with the pissing contest lately? People are saying to 'beware' ALL post from (name) are infected with virus, trojan and other shit?

IF someone's shares are 'infected', then most people with half a brain know that someone will share the information saying the they use (name) of software, and publish the results of the scan with the actual name of he infection. Someone will then run their own independent scan with something they're using that's different from the first scan and will either confirm the infection or say that what they using showed nothing (or a false positive like what happens with Symantec, etc.)

So when someone alleges a problem either prove it or STFU. My .02 cents.

@ wooster

"What is with the pissing contest lately? People are saying to 'beware' ALL post from (name) are infected with virus, trojan and other shit?"

I was / is a personal attack against this user(s). The accounts used to write all this shit were created just a few minutes before writing. And same quick we banned these accounts and removed the shit.

AvaxHome is a 100% open system - this of course can be abused by some idiots. And AvaxHome is much too large that we can constant check each and every publication. :-) The faster at least one of our members inform anyone of the AvaxHome Team about such shit, the faster we can take care and remove it.

@ Bully - AH is the best on the net - and it's because of good people and a foundation of trust as well as great posts. The Mods are great and the spirit of adventure lives on here. Love it! Thanks to you and all who make AH the BEST!!

@ ByGijS

"Think this does not "fit" the requirements in the posting descriptions..."

It does fit :-)

BOTH Russian and English are official AvaxHome languages! No matter of the change from AaxHome.ru to Avaxhome.org - Avaxhome is still a RUSSIAN site.

"Dunno what's about ?"

It's an info about another russian site. As everything on that site is in russian language only, it does ot make much sense to tell non-russian users about it.

I'm not clever, that's why I ask why a new hugearticle.com and other articletree.com just appeared around before the RS links?
They announce RS.com links, they only give a .txt file with links to these sites?
Another way to stop us downloading but to make money, e.g. my isp blocks these sites.
I know that many uppers want to make money, can't they use filefactory of well established companies?

Finally I hoped Avax will return to the crazy ftp2share.com so open for different mirrors?

However maybe the matter iw of no importance if we consider the movies offered with these links are certainly not nominated for any existing award (I love datz kinda movies, lol).

I dont know if this is the place but the paypal banner link on the left frame is forcing the border onto the right frame,
makin copy n paste of non hyperlinked urls impossible unless setting text to smallest....in IE
a minor nuisance

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Posted By: Avax Date: 21 Aug 2007 23:10 (pensive) Gentlemen! Do you think what we should open a forum or something similar?

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48 hours later.....[ ;-) ]
Hi Avax ,
that might be a good idea , perhaps we could have different useful thread in such a forum (for example,how to rip with EAC, how to rip DVD/VCD/VHS properly....understandable that all of these are available in google search , but perhaps with many intellectuals from various continents we could achieve something beyond)

I want to compliment most of the uploaders on the fanrastic submissions and avaxhome for being there in the first place. I would say that it might be an idea to have some of the uploaders out there having a review page of what is uploaded so that the rest of us can enjoy what is alreadt a extraordinarily good site. items could be rated for use and genuine problems which would to say the least be helpful... Anyway its just a thought that this helpful community can become more helpful...

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Posted By: Avax Date: 21 Aug 2007 23:10 "(pensive) Gentlemen! Do you think what we should open a forum or something similar?"

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Avax are you suggesting a forum with something like PHPBB as a log in private forum?
As it is avaxhome is an open forum and benefits the community and avaxhome as a whole.
The community doesn't have to log in, can take full advantage of the complete site (less posting comments and Private messages) and in return Avaxhome can take advantage of them via advertising and the suspect Ftp2share setup.

To have a forum might benefit in some ways. i.e. donations, banning, a better and easier moderation system for mods.
BUT it would take away all the hard work you have completed in way of uniqueness that is avaxhome.

I think avax numbers are probably very high. Websites like Warezbb where canadainbratboy and myself used to work that are now at a membership level of over 330,000 but that comes at a price that I truly don't think is worth paying. Server costs are very expensive, their heads got too big, subjection to DDOS, and a great deal of hard work for moderators. And the worst part, they have attracted the attention of all anti piracy agencies from all over the globe. I can tell you this as a FACT. Its due to the membership numbers and the availability for too wider discussion like; How old are you, How much do you download, Who rips and uploads the most Warez etc, all of these topics are telltale topics and the authorities have taken notice.

It might be 1 thing to share links, its another to be responsible for them. Even in Russia.

I say a few chat rooms for technical related issues and a better moderating system here would be great. But a forum would be the beginning of the Death of Avaxhome.

I will stop now but there is more lol

tuc. ;)

I think I understood it was question of a forum not to change the way the Avax Blog works.
A forum a place where people discuss any kind of matters and else, not a place where to UP or DL.
That would mean a second Avax, a secondary logon, just the registration will stop many to paricipating.
A forum as defined would be a great place, but not to confuse with AvaxHome. I'm not sure the right people for a forum are on AvaHome.
Fora are entities with kinda life, few go through the years. Nothing assembling people on the Internet goes very far in time.

“

Posted By: nopub Date: 24 Aug 2007 10:06 I think I understood it was question of a forum not to change the way the Avax Blog works. A forum a place where people discuss any kind of matters and else, not a place where to UP or DL. That would mean a second Avax, a secondary logon, just the registration will stop many to paricipating. A forum as defined would be a great place, but not to confuse with AvaxHome. I'm not sure the right people for a forum are on AvaHome. Fora are entities with kinda life, few go through the years. Nothing assembling people on the Internet goes very far in time.

”

Gee mate my English is pretty good and to me there are a few insults in your post.
I am sure people that frequent Avaxhome have allot to say and contribute IF given the means to do so.

Forums can be many things and have separate threads for separate issues
Chat
Technical
Uploads / Downloads etc... No need for two logins at all. So what if it doesnt last and without trying one will never know.

to me there are a few insults in your post
If you feel so, bye bye, your suceptilities are too strong for me.
To say I insult when their is no intention, that is an insult.
Good luck with your project.

where is the FAQ about posting?
Cant understand what means "uri name" when posting news, thank you

RE:
Posted By: 1Benson Date: 24 Aug 2007 18:37
where is the FAQ about posting?
Cant understand what means "uri name" when posting news, thank you

In my browser, it's at the top left corner of the main page: RULES&FAQ
http://avaxhome.ws/faq.html

And URI info from wikipedia : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_Resource_Identifier

Hope it helps, 1Benson.
Regards :-)

It is very happy to see the free speech link .I hope there will be a request box very soon.

I almost came in late =D. First I'd like to thank you for creating this section for our little beta free speech forum. Second, I'd like to thank everyone for doing a very great job for AvaxHome, you're the best guys!! My thanks goes to JimmyIII, Torai, Flatron, Mohd, Anjer er...I can't seem to remember everyone...oh well, you'll see my thanks on your posts anyway LOL =D. I've joined Avax just some weeks ago so I guess I don't have much idea of what's going on, but it seems to be getting taken cared of...I love the way Avax is as a Community. Last, I'm sorry I'm just a nooby downloader, I wish I have anything worth sharing, then maybe I can be of any use to this community, in the near future I hope =( Thanks again guys!

@fine
LOL, I thanked bully for this page and everything else without mentioning his name, my bad and I how could I have forgotten -=Pasha13=-....really bad, thanks for reminding me =D. Thanks to bullyand -=Pasha13=- too! =D

EDIT: Uh-oh..double posting again, didn't mean to, sorry. Could we do something about this? Like have an erase button? The page didn't reload the first time I hit the reply button so I hit it again, it resulted in this =( And yes, since there are many replies here already a forum would be a nice addition soon as well. =P

I like the idea of "Forum" where we could talk about various stuff and make HOWTO's available to people. I think users of Avax are mature enough to see the benefits of that, although I am a bit sceptic. I was a member of various warez forums for years now, now I have active membership on only one - and I left just because of that "free speech" thingie. Avax functions as a blog, and that is great, and shouldn't be changed... but I have an idea:
Why not integrating them both? database of users/passwords can be used in forums, I don't see why it couldn't, and this blog-like posting could be the first thing a user sees - and on the left would be forums, below calendar, for example... or something.

@ ALL

SORRY! to everyone waiting for answers to private messages - I had to take care for a few private things, so I was NOT online the last 5 days. I'll try to procecess asap.

PLEASE DO NOT USE _BOLD_ for full blocks of text, special if you just quote another comment - it looks terrible and makes the normal useage of bold for highlighting IMPORTANT things useless. If you relly needto do long quotes, please use italc attribute or the quote tag. (I change the comments from sinblaster to the quote tag).


@ fine

"You forgot two of the most important "guys": Bully & -=Pasha13=-"

"hard working" fits better as "important" ;-) But as I see it, he wanted to thank some UPLOADERS, not the AvaxHome TEam.

"Before the new AH-soft, I logged in once with each of my two accounts (the other one is the project-account "fintje") ckecking the "remember"-box and had no need for any re-logins until the new soft came from the sky."

The new software is still full of bugs - everyone besides TDz :-) is aware of this. But what you descrbe might be influenced by new software, but in a different way as you see it.

AvaxHome and Cookies

The "Rememenber me" checkbox - when it works - should remember your memberstate permanent, avoing new login when you start a new session. All this is handled by cookies, so it only works as it should if you allow AvaxHome to store session and/or permanent cookies on your system.

After login AvaxHome software sends you a SESSION cookie. This cookie is valid for your current seesion only, it is NOT PERMANENT. With each page request your browser sends that cookie back to our servers, so our software knows that you are logged in and who you are.

The "Remember me" function should send you a permanent cookie. If your browser handles it correct, it is not deleted when you end your session, so next time you arrive at AvaxHome and your browser seends the cookie, our software knows who you are. Of course you should use this feature ONLY if you work from a private PC - do OT use it when you access us from a public internet access point or a PC in your company :-)

OK, but now to your main problem. _IF_ everything in our software and your browser would work as it should, you could not be online with same browser and 2 different accounts at same time. :-) There is ONE cookie for session ID, not 2 different ones for 2 different accounts. I guess you use a browser like Opera or Firefox which allows you different tabs for different pages at same time. So, what you see is more a side-effect - your browser MIGHT handle the seesion cookie separate for each tab, so by reusing same browser tab it will send back the session cokkie last used in this tab.

But this cannot work for permanent cookies. At same time you login under a different account with checked "Remember me" your current PERMANENT cookie will be overwritten with the userdata fitting to your current new login.

The only perfect solution for 2 accounts at same time without problems are 2 different browsers :-) While my beloved Opera is tied to the Bully account, I use Firefox at same time when I need to login under a different account. Works perfect - I used it almost endless when starting to test the new AvaxHome software. And it also works for permanent cookies, because each browser stores cookies in its own dataspace.


"Today, this page is online since one week - with a bit more than ten posted comments :-)))"

If I remember well, I spoke about 10 people, not 10 comments. :-) 10 comments would have easy been written by Jantine herself :-)))

After 1 week I'm happy to say that we had no real abuse so far, so it seems the few members using it are really adult ;-) There hadd not been bad attacks against the AvaxHome Team, so no reason for the other guys to crucify me for this test :-))

On the other hand, I also noticed how almost everyone ignored Avax's question. And compared to the high number of registered users the amount of people writzing here is very low. This does in no way looks worth to install and maintain a real large forum software.

For now I think it is best to just keep the current pages online and check again in 2 or 3 weeks.

@ ByGijS

"Postings are not automaticly repeated / renewed after posters answer / post, so if a posting is bad, and people respond, the answer never will be seen...
ok, can be bad, if a board is having much new posts, but block a posting after 5 "comments" or so, the first one's are the importants....
Tnx 2 all people behind this..."

No matter that Fine already answered you, let me also add a few words. AvaxHome is NOT a forum :-) MAIN topic is to inform you about usefull (we should include this word in the FAQ for some of our publishers) books, music, magatzines etc. Most of our members only cehck the newest publications since their last login, they do not like the DejaVu of seeing the same publication again and again as a new one :-) This is also the reason why we ask to edit publications when needed instead of creating reposts each 2 days ;-)

In most cases the comments written to a publication are either "Thank You"s or complaints - both do not give reasons to put the same publication again on top.

In case of broken links t would also only help AFTER the publisher decided for a reupload. But I guess if you want to donwload something currently not available you will be clever enough to bookmark and check this publication yourself regulary. Or even easier: Use a good browser with tabs like Opera or Firefox and SAVE you full session of tabs before leaving.

If an OLD (a few days is NOT old!) upload is posted again, it already works like you exspect. Reposts are just new publications which will be on top of the new ones. (A word to our publishers: As clearly written in the FAQ, Reposts ARE welcome. But they should be tagged with "(Repost)" or "(Reupload)" in the title line!)

@ ALL

3 new sections in music section

Last week I added a few new sections to the music section - meanwhile they are public and even under use. You can find them under the topic

"Printed Music"

Click the topic or the "+" sign in front of it to see the 3 new sections.


Special sections in music section

As the name "special" should tell, the sections are reserverd for special topics. A "collection section" is for posting large collections, not single albums. A "0 Day | unreleased" section is for posting very new music just or soon to be released by the record company, not for posting albums from the 70s which are new to the publisher. Befroe now everyone says "sure!" or "Yep, easy to udnerstand" let me add that since months I at least one time each week spend my time for removing not fitting albums from the special sections. Let me say it in friendly words: I am tired of having to do this.

Last week I added on top of special sections short notes to avoid further "misunderstandings".

So, to every publisher who posts in these special sections:
PLEASE!!! READ the notes on top of music special sections. TNX!

And to all members: If you encounter wrong albums in the special sections, please send a PM to the PUBLISHER telling him why the published album does not fit to that section. Please write these PMs in FRIENDLY words :-) If the publisher goes on publishing in wrong special sections, please send a PM to Bully. TNX!!

@ hardworker Bully
If I remember well, I spoke about 10 people, not 10 comments. :-) 10 comments would have easy been written by Jantine herself :-)))

Yep, But I didn't ;-)
But it's good to see that at least a few people took the time to look at this page and to write something.

On the other hand, I also noticed how almost everyone ignored Avax's question. And compared to the high number of registered users the amount of people writzing here is very low. This does in no way looks worth to install and maintain a real large forum software.

I think that Avax question was perhaps a bit too short to noticed it, or perhaps not clear enough. I know it's the language, but i think he can do better ;-))
Like always, what i'm missing here are comments from the other AH Staff,

@ hardworker Avax

(pensive) Gentlemen!
Do you think what we should open a forum or something similar?

I'ts stil a men's world, but I hope this question was not only ment for gentlemens
...but I don't think it's needed ;-)

@ other Hardworkers
Have a nice day ;-)

@ jantine

"Like always, what i'm missing here are comments from the other AH Staff,"

It is mainly a matter of language. You see, AvaxHome is a RUSSIAN site. All people keeping AvaxHome running speak perfect RUSSIAN language - except me. If you knew AvaxHome in past, it was russian language only. The big growth of AvaxHome was mainly based on lots of international users, so language more and more switched to english, a common base most users can understand. And, to be honest, we somehow even did not take as much care as we should have taken for the original russian users. Pasha now assists me in reminding TDz that we still do not have russian user interface templates - they got lost march last year with launch of AvaxHome software 3.0.

And, for our russian members: These discussion pages are NOT limited to english language! Feel free to write in russian language.

Back to your main question. I am very sure that Avax and Torai would write much more without the language problem. In beginning of AvaxHome Avax did comment almost EVERY publication and people who remember those old days know that Avax has a lot to say. This was a big part of the old very special feeling at AvaxHome and I guess I'm not the only one missing his words. And yes, hehe, translating Avax's words by a software translator shows how bad these programs still are.

Pasha can talk good in english, but somehow we all decided that he is doing such good moderation that we all can rest and do not need to help him :-))) so he is very busy with moderating.

TDz speaks perfect english. But speaking a language perfect does not mean that someone is sensitive enough to say the right words in a friendly style always. Eh ... perhaps I better say it in this way: TDz is very busy with the technics of AvaxHome, keeping the server network running, deciding what of the many software bugs should be fixed next and so on.

Or in short: Seeing not many comments from the other guys written here does in no way mean that they would not take care.

I wonder where to find the script of AvaxHome, it makes a nice blog.

@ nopub

The "script" :-)) is a very large package of complex code. :-) Since launch of AvaxHome 3.0 software in February 2006 AvaxHome no longer uses normal blog software - whatever we tried was much too slow to handle the big amount of users and visitors which needs to be served at same time. Old members will remember the pain of 502 errors ;-)

AvaxHome 3.x and the current version are developed exclusive for AvaxHome and high optimized for the speed we need. And this development did cost a lot of money ... and a lot of nerves (special my ones) ...

Thanks Bully for the news, and yes I remember the nice 502 errors.

Just before posting:
in http://avaxhome.ws/video
I met the beloved STATS.DRIVECLEANER.COM
One of the worst trojan you could get.
I thought these mad advertisers were banned from avax.

This one is pure racket.

Hi. I'm trying to see post ONLY today's date using calendar at left but doesn't work
for same date. It works fine for other date. Can be fixed?

Is anyone else having problems with AH loading today? I'm in Canada, have a pretty good connection (T1) and it's taking forever to load pages AND pictures.

In doing a -t ping to www.avaxhome.ws, I'm seeing very, very,very slow time returns with frequent timeouts.

I can't make up my mind it the problem is with AH, the picture host or some problems on the net somewhere.

The time of this post as I write is 11:54 EDT (-4 GMT)

@ wooster:
me too. I´m in Mexico, can´t even post. Pages die when opening starts.
So I try & try again. And it´s not only the picture server.
When posting news, the catagories are yet all open - and finishing in the music section. Can´t even see the Preview etc. buttons.

@mad-mex- today is even worse than yesterday. Reminds me of the old 502 errors. It has taken almost half an hour to be able to login.

gfxworld is also timing out. I notice that when gfxworld has problems, avaxhome has them too at the same time.

The tracert shows long return times and time outs with nyc1.gblx.net, fra3.gblx.net, DUS & HAN LABDANET & h2o.eu.lambdanet.net)

@ fine:
but do you you also experience this f***ing slow connection?
I guess you´re in NL, so nearer...

Server AH now in D ?
static.88-198-58-202.clients.your-server.de.

Or just DNS server?

Man, I start seeing 500 error pages.
New changes in software, or server took his holidays?

@fine: the tracert I mentioned above were where the slowdowns began -specifically with the fra3.gblx.net.

From today: the bottleneck / slow down starts with te4-1-10GE.ar3.fra3.gblx.net and remain with really slow return rates from lambdanet, and also lambdanet-gw.hetzner (213.239.242.214), two other hetzner de hops, and finally connected to static.88-198-58-202.clients.your-server.de.

Yesterday afternoon I couldn't connect at all to AH, -t pings showed continuous 'destination host not found' mixed with timeouts.

What gives?

On another note adbrite has caused problems in the past with slow loads, etc........

"Congratulations you've received _________" ads.
Anything would be better. They are really, really loud. Really loud.
Worse than a virus.

@ fine

"Please, tell us what's going on with AvaxHome!"

I guess I know less as you :-) - I was not online during the last 5 days.

" is TDz running it on a Commodore C64 ???"

I'm not even sure if TDz knows what a C64 is ;-)


@ ALL

About shit which might can arrive over the ad-feeds: As explained already a few times, we have no control about the ever changing content the feeds distribute. For more details and hints about how to filter yourself, please check in:

http://avaxhome.ws/avaxhome_news

Sorry, I do not have direct links on hand, but there is not much traffic at all in AH News.

Posted By: Avax Date: 21 Aug 2007 23:10
"(pensive) Gentlemen!
Do you think what we should open a forum or something similar?"

I would love an Avax forum to exchange ideas with other members.

Nice home indeed: The house rules are more important than the house technics :-)

.
@Bully

not 10 not 50 -> 100 comments in the new AH-Talk-Area

Thank you!

@ Zonk

"not 10 not 50 -> 100 comments in the new AH-Talk-Area"

:-)

And as you see, still no censorship. Even Fine's poor and selfish "anti-Pasha" campaign is still online. No matter that writing same sh*t at 7 or 8 different publications is what we usual call SPAM.


@ ALL

Yesterday night, after seeing fine's campaign against Pasha, I wrote a fitting text to let people better undestand what's really behind this sh*t by giving the real facts fine "orgot" to mention. No, I did not post this text so far. Perhaps it is just enough to tell the MAIN fact:

"Because of new rules which were never announced I herewith STOP the posting of this collection!"

I myself told fine on August 30th to check the FAQ for updated mirror rules. He KNEW very well 2 weeks before starting. But as always fine exspects that AvaxHome rules are just for other members, not for him.


@ fine

TNX for also fully ignoring my beg (written above on this page) to NOT put full blocks of text in BOLD font.

The fact that largest part of this bold block is nothing else but URLs to your own publications leaves of course no other way as using eyecatching bold ...

So if there are 2 different download links in the post, AH respect the "no mirror please" thing?
´(I don´t mind as I upload to one server and everyone is invited to make mirrors )

@zonk:
not 10 not 50 -> 100 comments in the new AH-Talk-Area

Yep, but if you move this "forum" from mainpage to AH news - page almost dies.
As happened to all AH news pages.

@ bully - pasha - TDz:
what about the speed problem?
Sometimes AH loads fine, hours later I can´t even connect. So problem seems not to be fixed yet. At least not totally.

@ man3721
Making mirrors of Gb uploads: wow, my respect... ,-)

@ ALL

PLEASE do ONLY read the following lines if you really care about Fine's attack against Pasha.

2 days ago, direct after reading Fine's words here in AvxHome Talks (and in many other of his publications, like SPAM) I wrote a public comment bringing a bit more light to what this is all about. But I decided to NOT put it out to public, like I wrote in another comment yesterday. I thought there was enough trouble and meanwhile the whole thing even otherwise solved.

The "bad guy" who tried to help downloaders having problems with Rapidshare REMOVED his mirrors himself. But even after fine finally had his will fullwilled, no mater what our rules are, Fine still did not delete his sh't, he even goes into long discussions today about what I wanted to keep out of here.

To not waste more hours on this topic, I now will publish the text I did not publish during the last 2 days. This text is 2 days old, so it only covers Fine's original posting.


----- My comment from Sep 14th -----

@ ALL and special fine

It's not easy to get me really angry, but reading this above shit written by fine forces me to write at least a few words. I promised that there will be no censorship on these pages, so fine's words will stay here. But I will add the main facts fine "forgot" to tell you.

1. There is no need at all to attack Pasha.

What Pasha did or not did is fully based on AvaxHome rules. AvaxHome rules are for ALL members - we do not have "limited rules" for "special" users like fine. I'm sorry that fine regular exspects that we treat him different as other members.


2. Enhanced rules about mirroring

Yes, since a few weeks we have an addition to the "no mirror" rule, taking care for the needs of our downloaders. Our "business" guys can still claim "No mirror" to make sure that ALL profits of the upload goes to their greedy pockets _IF_ they provide at least 1 mirror themselves to help the users who have problems with the main hoster they selected. With modern features like remote transfers or using helpers like ftp2share this takes just a few seconds.


3. fine KNEW about these added rule since 2 weeks.

Private Message Dispalaying
From: Bully Date: 30 Aug 2007 01:00
Subject: Mirrors :-)

This is the header of the mail I spend my time to special tell our VIP :-) to check the FAQ for the latest changes (done hile I was outsie AvaxHome).

In other words: Fine did know very well BEFORE starting these publications that his "No mirror" force is INVALID if he does not do a second remote copy to another server.


4. I already talked with fine during the last days in private

This morning I spend about 3 hours for writing to him the largest mail I ever wrote at AvaxHome. I even spent my time to manually change one of his 12 AvaxHome accounts to a username without bad tricks, which no longer worked with our new software. And fine's response?

A new mail asking to DELETE comments with mirrors created in his publications - anda short note that he did not even read my long mail to him.

Sorry, fine, same as Pasha I will NOT act against members who fully stick to our rules which you do just ignore.


5. Timing of mails an his publicattack

As fine knows very well. I do have a real job in the real world. At the time fine wrote his mail asking to delete mirrors and at the time he wrote this public comment I was working, not online at AvaxHome.


6. Stopping further publicatons

I'm really sorry that fine tries to hurt all people who want to download this collection, trying to make presuure against AvaxHome team. This will not work.

"You should ask -=Pasha13=- for the missing 93 Volumes because he doesn't want to delete the unwanted mirrors"

Yeah ... reminds me to a little child crying with deep red face "Mummy, mummy, this bad guy is not doing what _I_ WANT. But __I__ WANT IT!!! ____I____ WANT IT NOW!" :-) without even spending a single thought if what he wants is right or wrong. But a good mummy will tell the child that he is NOT the center of the earth. :-) There are other people, besides him, who also have wishes. And one fine day the little child will learn that other people's wishes are same worth as his ones and that he is part of a COMMUNITY, not alone on earth.

But AvaxHome is NO "Kindergarden". We somehow exspect that we deal with adult members ;-)
So, PLEASE do not follow this stupid order and do NOT flood Pasha with mails about the other 93 albums.

"... unwanted mirrors ..." should be changed to "... JUST FOR ME unwanted mirrors ...". People having problems doing 15 downloads for one album of thisseries from Rapidshare do see mirrors in no waay as "unwanted". Anad again, fine knew very well BEFORE publishing that asking to delete mirrors is only possible if he himself would give (at least) 1 mirror.

Instead of asking to keep our hard working moderator busy whith such nonsense, it would have been much more helpful to tell our members where you can download the full collection. The full collection was already uploaded and published somewhere else. No, not by fine. BTW: Our FAQ also clearly tells: Re-publishers should give credits to the original publishers / uploaders - those people who really did the hard work.


OK, I hope you now better understand what this is all about. I already spend many hours on this topic and seeing above comment as only result of all my tries I think it is fully OK when I also decide to NOT spend more time on this topic.

---- END of comment -----


Please eexcuse some emotional influences in above words. But after such long talking to Fine in private I was really feeling like an idiot seeing his public reaction, special blaming Pasha for why he stops this series.


My deep respect to our member man3721

“

Posted By: man3721 Date: 14 Sep 2007 Don't blame the rules, it's not a rapidshare point collection site. I've deleted mirrors. Don't want others to lose the opportunity of getting theese fine album. So, you can continue posting but at least you should consider users without rapidshare accounts if you your intend is to SHARE!!!

”

I really hope that after 5 or 10 more reincarnations even fine will reach such a level of understanding and wisdom.

@ mad-mex

First of all: Sorry that your PM to me dated from 12th is still shown in red color in my mailbox. I wasted much to much time in long mails to someone else. :-( But I'm sure it is no urgent service request, so please let me answer it the next days when my mood is back to abetter level. ;-)


"So if there are 2 different download links in the post, AH respect the "no mirror please" thing?"

Yep. The "no mirror" rule is still valid to make our business guys happy. But AvaxHome is a site for SHARING, not for business. As some of our publishers more and more behaved like "litlle dictators ruling their slaves of downloaders" and fully forgot that these "leechers" are the BASE of their business, it was time to enhance the "no mirror" rule a bit.

A publisher can still make sure that ALL profits go to his own pockets by providing a mirror himself. But downloaders now at least have a chance of doing the download at all if they have problems with main server.

There were a few reasons why this was not announced at AH News:

1. Less than 1 % of our members really READ AH News :-(

2. I was not online during those days and other team mebers somehow got sick of always beeing flamed for "bad english".

3. It is not such an "earth-shaking" topic as fine sees it

4. Announing it would feed the other half ofour business guys :-))

You see, we do not only have business guys among our publishers. We also have business guys among our mirror creators :-)

Announcing with large words this addition would just MOVE style of business. Some publishers would even change to mirror creators :-))

Our moderators did NOT remove INVALID "No mirror" statements. If a mirror creator takes no time to regular check our rules (the FAQ is a page constantly enhanced and upgraded) he still will follow the publishers demand of "no mirror".

Or in short: Our business publishers should be GLAD that there was no big announcemnt that most of their "No mirror" demands are incalid.


"(I don´t mind as I upload to one server and everyone is invited to make mirrors ) "

I know. And special in the music section most publishers are not on the business trip. And one fine day when the hosters will stop these fucking campaigns whole AvaxHome will be back to what Avax and Torai created it for.


"Yep, but if you move this "forum" from mainpage to AH news - page almost dies.
As happened to all AH news pages. "

It never was on main page :-) Only the announcement asking to bookmark the 2 links was on main page.

AvaxHome is a system for giving pointers to stuff our members and visitors might find usefull, like an enhanced version of Google ;-) We do not want to change AvaxHome to a forum. We alsways had the option to add comments to publications (like in a forum), but no-one can keep track of 130.000 publicatons where perhaps comments might be added. And some topics just do not fit to new publications. This gap should be closed by adding these (currently) 2 pages.

These pages are on top of AvaxHome music, the largest AvaxHome section, and the URLs are announced in AH News. It is not tooo difficult to find these pages _IF_ a user takes a bit more care about AvaxHome as only link grabbing on main pages :-)


"@ bully - pasha - TDz:
what about the speed problem?
Sometimes AH loads fine, hours later I can´t even connect. So problem seems not to be fixed yet. At least not totally."

As I do not want to let you grow old waiting for an answer from TDz :-) here a short note from me:

We had (or have?) some real probelms with the database server during the last days. The database holds EVERYTHING of AvaxHome - all publications, all comments, all mails, the full user management and so on. To make AvaxHome faster respond to "usual" often repeated requests like calling the main page we meanwhile installed an improved caching system. Whenever you call a page someone else did call before you, we have no need to again build this page for you by grabbing all needed parts from the database, we just deliver the already built and stored page from the cache. (In reality it is more complex, like adding our menu etc.)

But some actions you do cannot be handled by the cache. A new comment you just wrote cannot be already in the cache, a personal message written to you of course will not be hold in a public cache and so on.

_IF_ people understand this concept, it is easy to understand what happened a few times during the last 2 days. All pages you called which were stored in the cache arrived at your screen very fast. Everything else did not work at all - if you vere patient, you finally saw 504 (time-out) errors.

New created publications needs the database to store them, so we had no new publications for many hours. Adding comments needs the database, so you were not able to add commnts. Reading or writing PMs needs database server, so no way. Without working database server even we were not able to add any words to main page letting you know about the technial problem.

@ fine

I give up. Feel free to go on with your strange games - from now on I will just ignore this nonsense. I also see no sense giving support to someone who does not even read mails I write to him. From now on please send your mails for deleting comments, asking for banning other members etc. to Torai


@ Torai

Please forgive me :-)



@ ALL

After seeing fine's last comment, the first things which came to my mind are the wise words of 2 famous persons:

“

"My God! Whom do we work for ..." Avax, 2005 "Beam me up Scotty! There is no intelligent life ..." Captain Kirk, End of the 60s

”

I make it short. I was already almost sure what "big mistake we would have to apologize for" Fine was thinking about. So, around 12 am I broke my work. logged into AvaxHome and took the time for another private message to fine.

Everything below are MY words, so it is no problem to quote from myself:

“

Private Message Dispalaying From: Bully Date: 17 Sep 2007 12:52 Subject: PRIVATE No answer needed - but I think you should read it ... There are a few things I think you should know before you dig yourself deeper into the shit. Yes, I stay to the word shit. 1. Big mistake we have to apologize for I think I know what you mean: --------- Also comments with "mirrors" will be deleted IF a files in the comments was hosted at the same file hosting as using in the publication. (example deposite in publication and deposite in comment) ------------ But this does not fit here. :-) The mirrors were not hosted at Rpaidshare like you did - the mirrors were hosted by ftp2share.com. If someone would have just posted a mirror at rapidshare, it of course would have been deleted. ....

”

And 5 hours later fine posts a loooooooong comment about exactly the same rule I before explained to him in short words.


I really see no reson to waste more time on this topic. We have a lot of real problems to take care for. And enough users still waiting for answers to SERIOUS support needs.

@ For whom it may concern
First of all i have to apologise for my bad english, but it's not my mother launguage.

About the Soul of Avaxhome,

It's not so strange that it's lost because Avaxhome is more and more turning in to MirrorMakingMoneyMachine

It has lost his contact with his real publishers.
The publishers has lost the contact with the real downloaders.
And I think it's real,real sad.
Leechers who don't give a damn about AvaxHome, can grab whatever they want, without even leaving a message.
Rules becomming more and more akward and changing all the time.
And worst of all the "business guys" seems to have the most profit of the new rules of Avaxhome right now.


I myself lost the fun of uplaoding here already. How Come ?
Since i first set my foot on AH...Yes, there was fun, i even started a nice project.
I had no problem at all in the mirrors or others reuploads, because they where made for a very different reason.
And the only reasons was the intention to help or to share with each other. and that was fully oke with me.


Here is a good example how it should be done. I uploaded for free without any force of using another server
And the help was comming from the real downloaders :-)

http://avaxhome.ws/music/mastermix_classic_cuts.html


But what happens now ?
A publisher spend his time in creating a publication and no matter if it's a pointcollector or not, it cost a lot of time to do this in the correct way and some of them are very goodlooking puplications.

And then what....Then the mirrormakers/moneymakers/businessguys are comming.
Heyyy that's nice - Lets make mirrors - We can earn some money - Collect some points too. YES GREAT!!!!

And don't tell me that it's because they want to help all those poor downloaders who are too lazy to say even Thank You.

And more akward - if a publisher really wants no mirrors.
He gets no support at all anymore from the Team.
Is it really so strange that a uploader wants to have the full controll over his own publication ???

But it's ofcourse fully ok that mirrormakers take it over, making mirrors for there own business and if they do it by the new rules, then it's fully oke.
I sometimes even see that the thank you's goes to the mirrormakers instead to the publisher who did the publication and really deserved it.

I call this real Bullshit
Under this rules I'll never do a upload again, because i don't like this at all.

Where is the time that someone is really glad with something a publisher shared with others.
Where is the time that nobody didn't cry for the so badly needed mirrors.
Where is the time that a downloader took the time for a nice download so he could also took some time to leave a message.


Everything has to be fast, fast ,faster and as quick as possible so they can leave very quick after he/she gets what he/she wants, no time for talk, no time for a thank you, no time to read news, Ahhhh Who cares - no there's only time for a next download ....a next download... a next download
And pleaseeeeeeee let it be on the right server/hoster so we can go on with the next download.
Perhaps I'm too simple for this and but I don't understand this at all anymore.

To not be involt too much in the above discussion, because i fear for worse, i sure have my own private view.
I hate to see this conversation and i think that a "few" words could be formuled in a very different let's say in a more friendly way.
I know that less then 1% is reading this news and nobody seems to care about it.
Ok perhaps i'm the only one
But _I_ do care and if i see what's happening here i feel very sad - and for me this above discussions is a proof that there's no respect at all anymore for a publisher who always had a heart for Avaxhome.....
Doing a great Job here, but also have his own reasons for not wanted mirrors. but that doesn't count anymore. rules are changing again and the mirror makers can do there job
And Avaxhome ??? Avaxhome is more concern about the greedy downlaoders - Arggghhh who cares about it - I'm logging out - Grtjs Peetje

Just one little thing before someone falls over me ;-)
I have no intension to attacking The Team or whatsoever with my above comment
But this is just how i Feel about this whole situation and that's all

@ ALL

AvaxHome and rules

AvaxHome has grown to a very lage site - much larger as most of our users are aware of. A lot of hard work is needed each and every day to keep such a monster running and in good condition. The few people who do this work like sslaves, but still trying to keep their enthusiasm, are called the AvaxHome Team.

Since its first days, AvaxHome is a very open system. Everyone cam take part, either as downloader, as uploader, or even just as visitor without even any need for registration. Different to most other sites, where the owners provide all content, our members provide most content and are (almost) free to decide content themselves.

In a "perfect world", where everyone does everything right, there would be no need for rules, but we are far away from a "perfect world". There is no way to run such a system without at least some main rules.

Even it is hard to believe, but we really need a rule forbidding users offending other users, we need a rule to forbid racism, nazi propaganda and so on.

AvaxHome also tried ince first days o keep some level of quality for the offered content - I guess most of us are here because of this :-) We take care for quality by spending a lot of work in moderating each nd every publication creted by our members AND by giving guidelines and rules about the content itself and the sytle on optical syle it is published (AvaxHome look-and-deel, CI). Without this, most of you would leave us very quick :-)

And finally we need to take care of major changes outside our own little world. The worst of all are the f*cing business campaigns all the main filehosters started during the last years. In past there was just one reason to publish at AvaxHome: To SHARE with others. Meanwhile many members only publish for private profits. Part of our team including me do NOT like this change, but we also have to keep in mind that the reason why to publish something does not change in any way the value of the published stuff itself.

To sum up:
A site like AvaxHome CANNOT exist without rules.



Different people have different views

AvaxHome rules are not made to torture our members - in fact they are made to make our members and visitors feel well.

Or better: Make MOST OF THEM feel well.

AvaxHome is a large community with members from all over the world. To take care for this international change, AvaxHome had to change from his former russian-only style to a language MOST of our memebrs understand: English language. For sure not all of our russian members-since-first-days did like this - but it was needed to make MOST of our current users feel well.

Among our members we have downloaders and publishers. We do not like to make such a separation - for our team BOTH are valuable and we try to handle ALL our members same. But of course publishers have very different needs or wishes as downloaders. For example, while downloaders enjoy the choice between mirrors, for the publishers this is unwnated additional work. It is not easy to find rules to make BOTH uppers and downers happy. We only can make MOST OF THEM happy.

To sum up:
AvaxHome rules can never make each and everyone happy in all cases, but they make MOST of our users feel well.



AvaxHome rules and interpretations

Someone wrote that we do not have rules, but laws. But he oversaw the very important fact that even laws will NEVER be able to handle each and every special situation. For each book of law there will be hundreds or more large books of comments and examples like judges decided in spececial cases. And this is same for AvaxHome rules. The fact that we cannot pay a team of lawyers to write large books of comments to our rules does not change the fact that it is impossible to make a rule which covers EVERY pecial situation.

Each and every of our rules has a REASON why we created it. WE KNOW the reason or problem we try to handle, no matter how good we are in finding the best words to sum it up in a short rule.

Whenever a special problem comes up, which is not DIRECTLY handled by the fitting rule, we remember WHY we created this rule and decide based on the reason behind it.

Part of this decision is also often the influence to the MAJORITY of our members. If we have 2 choices to handle, for example to make one member happy and most other unhappy, we often decide in that way tht most are happy.

There are also cases which cannot be handled in full just by a rule. Let' see a real example from AvaxHome music section:

We have a rule forbidding poor sounding music at low bitrates. We settled the limit at 128 Kbps - but of course many of our users have ears which can "enjoy" 128 Kbps, while on the other hand our audiophile members cannot even enjoy music compressed at 192 or 256 Kbps.

It is real no problem to rip a CD in better quality as 128 Kbps. But what if the content is not available at CD quality?

We added a sub-rule to the 128 kbps rule which allows 128 Kbps and lower in 3 special cases - if it is a historic recording, rare bootleg or just an addition to a good sounding quality.

And still this sub-rule does not fit all needs :-)

If someone uploads 2 great Queen albums in perfect quality and adds 1 bootleg at 128 Kbps he fits very well to the ideas behind the sub-rule.

But how about a user who had a publication with 6 Queen albums at 128 Kbps, no matter that all of them are available on CD in almost every shop? Of course this publication was refused. And now this publisher remembers the sub-rule. He grabs one Queen album at 192 KBPS, puts this on top of his publication and sends the same out again to moderators. How should the moderator handle it? By keeping just on the words of the written sub-rule or by remmembering what the reason behind this rule is?

We think that in such a case the brain should rule, not the written words. You can be sure that a moderating Bully would REFUSE this publication, no matter that it would fit the words of the rule, but not fits the background of the rule, the real idea behind it. And Bully prays that Pasha would do same ;-) No mattr if the publisher would attack him for that :-))

OK, of course we could add a sub-sub-rule claimimg that most albums need to be in good quality. And even after this, a clever guy like Fine would confront us with a publication were good and bad bitrates are 50 : 50 percent ;-)

Taking also care for this by next sub-sub-sub-rule would let the FAQ grow to a size no-one of our members would be willing to read it. :-)


OK, second part of the sub-rule: Historic material. It makes no sense to give a year as border between historic or not historic. It is also not possible to include a never-ending list of what albums are historic or not. There is no other way as hoping that the moderator uses his brain to decide if an album fits this rule or not.

A moderating Bully for example would refuse a 128 Kbp rip of an album which is available on many other sites at 192 or even 320 Kbps. But he also would allow an recording from 1977 as "historic" when no better quality exists anywhere. And he would hope that the publisher would understand and accept and not keep him busy with a full week of arguing.

To sum up:
AvaxHome rules are not written in stone. Our moderators and admins have brains AND use! them to handle the rules in special cases, based on the reasons why we created the rules.

@ fine

As you might guess, the large text about AvaxHome rules and interpretations was mainly written for you. But I kept it in a more genreal style, so it fits also for other members with similar problems. Please see this text as main base for what I add now special for your case.

Did you ever see the words "Mods are Gods"? Yep, I bet you saw these words on MANY sites. And you know what they mean: Final decision is by the Mod. Without arguing, without long explains.

But, as you know, AvaxHome is a bit different as other sites. Also in this case. We KNOW that we are no Gods. OK, perhaps one of our team sometimes feels like he is God ;-) but there is also Avax who would come closest from all of us to a God, but he never wanted to be treated in such a way.

But no matter, there are sometimes situations we have to decide how to handle, and we somehow exspect that our members respect what we decide. In your case, all of us would have decided same.

The whole situation would have been much easier and faster to handle if you would have just written in 2 sentences what EXACLTY your concern was. Instead you published list of links, personally attacked Pasha, asked members to flood Pasha's mailbox with requests for music albums and so on. I first thought that you just had some beer too much before publishing this comment, but seeing it in context of other things and how you kept to it even after the mirrors no longer exsisted, left no other way as forgetting about beer and handling it. Worst of all, we first had to handle the style of your comment instead of concentrating on thereal topic.



It even took you 3 more days to finally tell what your real concern was - the sub-sub-rule about deleting mirrors at SAME hoster.

And as this is the real topic, I will stick to that now.

Mirrors shall give a downloader another chance to download if he cannot handle problems with the original hoster - in most cases Rapidshare.

So, if the publisher hosts at RS, it of course makes no sense at all for downloaders if someone creates at same time a "mirror" also hosted at RS. I fully follow your view that this smells much like usiness mirror.

To avoid such style of business, we have the sub-rule against mirroring at same hoster.


But your case was very different. Of course Pasha would have not allowed a comment with just a RS mirror. And if the comment would give for example a RS and a Deposit mirror, Pasha would edit the comment and remove the links to RS.

The situation of course gets more complex when we have to deal with a multi-hoster system like ftp2share. We have no special sub-sub-sub-rule for miti-hosters. But we (I mean: the team) do have brains. Hope you do not want to argue about this statement for another week :-)


The situation here is rather simple:

1. File mirrored on 5 hosters
1.1 4 of the 5 hosters are valid
1.2 1 of the 5 hosters (RS) is invalid

Or in short: 80% of the mirrors are fully OK, 20% not. And more short: MOST of the mirrors are correct.

We cannot delete the 1 incorrect mirror without also deleting the 4 correct mirrors.

Deleting ftp2share links because 20% wrong we would make 1 person happy, but a lot of downloaders unhappy.

Does this somehow makes sense to you?

Pasha decided to make many happy and just 1 unhappy.



In short bout your older comment:

Yep, _I_ know very well how many bugs our new software still has, but TDz often likes to wear pink colored eyeglasses. :-) The mailer bugs are well known. As you use Opera, best soultion is: Open a new tab (I use first tab for this), load your message view, click on context menu for "Reload ..." and select a reload time fitting your needs - can be 15 minutes if you have much PMs, 12 hours, or whatever fits best.

About my mail: Yes, I "removed" the red color (unread flag). This bad bug is also still not fixed. :-( I needed to view my mail to be able to copy and paste the first part about the sub-sub-rule. And as my mail was still in unread condition, eevn 8 hours after you had written your public comment, I was rather sure you would not miss the red color in any way.

About ftp2share: You should know better - or read our old mails :-) I never was against ftp2share itself. I was against the new rule which FORCED all users to use ftp2share, no matter if they wnanted or not, no batter how bad ftp2share software / ervice was at those days. And I was against the style the rule was announced. But let's forget that sad days of AvaxHome history ...

There was progress. The ftp2share-force-rule was canceled, owenership of ftp2share changed, quality of service was much improved by new software. When it comes to large uploads and/or high risk of quick file deletes, I even recoomnd ftp2share in private to some uploaders, asking to at least test it to see if it fits their needs.

If Avax uses it for all his famous asian publications, without a rule forcing him to do so, it can't be such bad. :-) On the other hand, when I see money-maker-tutoials on top of main page to advertize ftp2share I cannot avoid that 2 alrm bells start tinging in my head ...

Or in short: The ftp2share topic is very complex.


@ALL

About fine's next comment: I needed some time
for reading and checking the long text about mirrors before starting this comment for fine, so in 1st version this comment had just a short temporary text letting fine know. Fine's next comment refers to the temporary text, not the real version written later.

Gute Nacht, Freunde
Es wird Zeit für mich zu geh'n
Was ich noch zu sagen hätte
Dauert eine Zigarette oepsssssssssssssss here i have to stop, because i don't smoke ;-)

Goodnight to you All and i hope when i wake up tomorrow the sun is shining

Yep, at least there´s life on this page !!!
Even if it is a one-man show.
Can´t build me an opinion about who´s right or wrong, neither want to.
But the funny thing is, that every heavy discussion on AH is ALWAYS bout mirrors.

You need rules, society need rules and laws.
But they are made to be broken.

Now, it´s also hard for us lawbreakers (what we do is illegal) - to break the laws here, but accept them there.
But even pirates have their honour-code....

Business-guys are cheap moneymakers - and as you can´t fight them: accept them.

Now we have idiots on this site (watch out, a trojan...) and smart guys (2 download mirrors - one on RS.com, the other on ftp2share - with only one mirror-yep right- RS.com) or (one real download on RS.com and one fake- yet deleted- on another)
As I said: you can´t fight them - so give them a smile. Idiots and business-guys are just an old fart in the big universe. But we are the sun !

And still Guten Abend here... ,-)

@ fine

(if someone else reads it: Please do not take the following comment fully serious)

I had another alternative how to handle your comment against Pasha, a version Pasha should have posted under HIS name.

“

Posted By: -=Pasha13=- Date: (never posted) (Copyright 2007 by Bully) @ ALL "You should ask -=Pasha13=- for the missing 93 Volumes because he doesn't want to delete the unwanted mirrors" You should ask "fine" for all the missing new publications because "fine" wanted me to spend all my time just to handle the requests for piano albums - instead of moderating new publications. I hope in about 14 days it is done and we will have again new publications at AvaxHome.

”

Placing this at top of AvaxHome main page would have for sure filled up your mailbox ;-))

Already wanted to leave, having my "Comment by Pasha" as my last comment, but now I see that during the long time it took to write the large text about AvaxHome rules, some other comments showed up. I'm very short in time now, so I try to keep it short


@ fine

What you observed is not new to me or to the rest of the team. But, as you know, comments can be added at all time to each and every publication. There is really no way that we could check all publications again and again to see if perhaps something bad is added. This is not only for mirrors, this is also for anything else like SPAM, racism, offending users etc. We only can take care about a special problem if we KNOW about it.

For SPAM, we hppe that all members will report it to us, for misbehaving users we hope that the offended user informs us. And for problems with mirrors the publisher should inform us. If we are NOT INFORMED about a problem, we have no chance to take care.

It might sound a bit sarcastic, but for deleting mirrors we leave the choice to the publisher. If the publisher asks us to delete mirrors, we will do it, based on the rules (and interpretation in special cases). If the publisher himself does not care, we also do not.

Believe it or not - many of our business publishers do not even "waste" their time to check again already created publications. They do not care at all for user comments.

One reason for this is that they know very well - what you have porblems to understand - that no matter of added mirrors or not, the MAJORITY of downloaders will ever click on the FIRST link they see, the link from the publisher.

Same for your special case. If someone wants to download from Rapidshare, he clicks on your RS link. Why should he complicate his life to use ftp2share to do a RS download?

In short: Deleting mirrors needs also that the publisher at least takes so much care to check comments and to tell us that we should delete :-)



@ jantine:

I guess it is best for all of us if I try to "oversee" your new comment. Very bad timing, my dear.

@fine
"I guess, that will give too much waiting-time for me and therefor: Gute Nacht"

Goodmorning my friend, I hope you slept wel ;-)

@med-mex
Goodmorning too

"Business-guys are cheap moneymakers - and as you can´t fight them: accept them."

Perhaps that's the reason that Avaxhome not only lost his soul, but sold it too ;-)

I know this is very a bad joke, and i'm not really mean it, but this was the first thing what comes into my mind after reading you're comment :-)

@Bully-dear
"I guess it is best for all of us if I try to "oversee" your new comments. Vry bad timing, my dear."

I have a nose for bad timings, but it's fully oke if you "oversee" my comments, hope you read them
But ofcourse, Goodmorning too you too ;-)

Today I'm getting Java script warning message consistently for EVERY PAGE being loaded from Avaxhome:

"A script on this page maybe busy or it may have stopped responding...."

Usually, the page will begin loading perfectly then out of the blue the page seemed hanged for 5 to 10 seconds. The Java script warning message would appear and I had to dispatch it before the page would finish loading.

I had not been getting this Avaxhome script message for a long time. Now suddenly it re-appeared again.

Anybody getting it? Or it's my PC? Just wondering.
Can some buddies here please shed some light on this mysterious message and the way to fix it?

Thanks in advance!

@nkbl :

Here's a small quote from Bully's statement posted on 17 Sept, 2007 03:39 above , it might help with some explanations to your situation :


We had (or have?) some real probelms with the database server during the last days. The database holds EVERYTHING of AvaxHome - all publications, all comments, all mails, the full user management and so on. To make AvaxHome faster respond to "usual" often repeated requests like calling the main page we meanwhile installed an improved caching system. Whenever you call a page someone else did call before you, we have no need to again build this page for you by grabbing all needed parts from the database, we just deliver the already built and stored page from the cache. (In reality it is more complex, like adding our menu etc.)

But some actions you do cannot be handled by the cache. A new comment you just wrote cannot be already in the cache, a personal message written to you of course will not be hold in a public cache and so on.

_IF_ people understand this concept, it is easy to understand what happened a few times during the last 2 days. All pages you called which were stored in the cache arrived at your screen very fast. Everything else did not work at all - if you vere patient, you finally saw 504 (time-out) errors.

New created publications needs the database to store them, so we had no new publications for many hours. Adding comments needs the database, so you were not able to add commnts. Reading or writing PMs needs database server, so no way. Without working database server even we were not able to add any words to main page letting you know about the technial problem.

@ jantine:
> "Business-guys are cheap moneymakers - and as you can´t fight them: accept them."
> Perhaps that's the reason that Avaxhome not only lost his soul, but sold it too ;-)

I meant: and as you can´t fight them: IGNORE them.

Maybe AH sold his soul - but they have to survive.
Older days were more romantic, sharing was fun and "cool".
But even Youtube is only a moneymaking machine - and millions of people use it and have fun.

And for me situation right now is, that AH is bigger than ever.
A little bit like MS: making a lot of people happy, and a few upset will make you number one. I hate MS - i use MS.

AH is still the best - but far from being perfect !
But for the wide crowd: everything that´s annoying me makes them happy.

I never was against ftp2share - i was against uploading ONLY to ftp2share.
So I´ll stay with AH till this forcing rule comes back.

Sharing means losing.
Mirrors means losing a bit more.
Sharing means winning.
Mirrors let you win more.

Golden rule: 1 - 1 = 10 !
(applies only to the non-businessguys)

Still Guten morgen here...

@ inem:
nothing changed here with scripts.
AH acting the same, no strange new behaviour.

@fine:
just to underline it - for me you are NOT a businessguy.

@ nkbl

Sorry for hihlighting, but this is one of the very rare comments NOT about fine :-)

"Today I'm getting Java script warning message consistently for EVERY PAGE being loaded from Avaxhome:"

I'm not sure if this error is really about the original AvaxHome code. I never saw an error during the last days, but I also have a lot of filters running and do not use IE. And as TZDz is lost in nirvana since 7 weeks, I do not think that there was any code change of our pages.

All AvaxHome pages include links to the advertising-feeds. Many add own javascript code while loading. Depending on browser this additional loaded code is handled separated to the domains or just added inside the AvaxHome page.

There was one thing I noticed a few days ago: One advertisement wanted to load an ActiveX module. As fine did keep me busy enough with important :-) problems, I did not real analyze it and just told my firewall that this module should be blocked automatically, without asking meagain.

Sorry, this is the best I currently can answer to your question.


@ inem

TNX for adding the other part which has also a bit influence to what nkbl observed. The main topic for sure is the linking of ad-feeds. We have no control at all WHAT they feed and HOW FAST they change content of their feeds.

In short: If an AvxHome page does not change at all, like no new commnt added, it can stay in the cache very long. A page like AvaxHome main page does change every few minutes, so there is also every few minutes a new version in the cache. And older cached pages might call advertising content fully different to a very new page.

@ mad-mex

There is sooo much I could write to your above comment about "ignoring business guys" or "AH sold his soul" and some other fine words of you. But it would take much more time as I have.

Just about one topic:

In all my old commnts I wrote "AH LOST its soul". And the loss I summed up as the strong CHANGE among our USERS. And to make sure: AvaxHome was NOT sold to Google for big money like Youtube was :-)


"@fine:
just to underline it - for me you are NOT a businessguy."

Not only for you :-) I KNOW that he is not. And whoever sees that ugly frog (he tells me that it is a Bullfrog ...eh ...yes ...) and his below words in all his publications hould also know, no matter of wondering why he includes "No mirror" like the business guys. :-)

And that is the real strange part of the hwhole story. Someone AGAINST business guys attacks (in poor styl) a rule which is also made to LOWER business. Streching this topic soooo much in public that now all bisiness-mirror-guys will thank him or crown him as new business king. And to complete the story, the mirror which all this was about was not even created by a business guy. A simple look into the mirror creators blog will clearly show that he is NO businees guy. Not even any words like "No mirror" in his publications.

We really gave some "crazy" guys at AvaxHome :-)

@ fine
(about your comment 20 Sep 2007 00:23)

Please let me sum it up a bit, avoiding quotes if not really needed, to make sure I will not break the limit of max comment length :-)

The main long text I wrote and spent most time for was the text abozr "AvaxHome rules". Of course it was triggered by you, but the text itself is done in a global way so it helps other users with similiar "problems" like you.
When I first saved the text I started with cecking and fixing and to avoid to be perhaps trigger a software bug which might delete everything I saved it every few minutes. After second or third save (which triggers a reload of the page) I saw your comment directly below my comment, so I decided to let you know that what you alread saw is still not the final version. In my view still no bad idea as you see it now.

Jantine's comment stored earlier as my text I could not see after the reloads - you know how Opera works by aztroscrolling to the former position the page was - the end of my comment. After ALL was done and I was already prepaing to logout I somehow decided to scroll back on the page nd THAN I saw Jantine's comments - check her times and youwill see that she wrote them while I was wrinting on the large text.

MY comment to her about "bad tuimimg" means that she stayed quiet all the days since your original comment, but now, at a time the fire was almost near to burnout, she jumped in putting new oil to the fire.Andsorry, no, I will not help to get the fire burning higher, so I decided to "oversee" her "firendly" comment.

""... keep some level of quality ..."
// small publications with a few pictures etc.

You're a real "funny" guy :-) You ask me as question topics I myself mentioned to you in private before. You know how I see this. If it makes you happy to force me to write same also in public, wehy not. You KNOW that I do not like "collections" of 3 wallpapers or 15 Icons with the famous "No mirror" claim.

Hope you feel better now After I had to made myself another few enemies.

But what you again oversee: When it comes to AvaxHome, iut's not important what you want, or what I want or like. What really counts is the majority of our users. These publications HAVE downloads, so sure that at least part of our memebrs really like them. And that is what counts for me.

"If "The Team" is really interested in quality and not in quantity/page-hits, there can be done a lot against this "business". One possible way to reduce the worst things - beside the mirrors - would be, to disallow any use of hosters with point/money-programs for small filesizes, which should cover, of cource depending on the chosen MB-limit, a lot of cases of abusing the infrastructure of AH for personal business."

Yoz know very well that it is not sucheasy as you write. I already told you in private that publishers and downloaders DEPEND BOTH on each other. If there would be no people downling these files, special business guys would not upload them. And if our users want such stuff and download it we respect this wish.

What you want would mean a censorship about the "wuality" of offered content. How shall we decide which picture collection is worth to be at AvaxHomeand which one is not? shall we spend all our time downloading each and every offered file to see if it fits what we like?

If we would do such a content-bsed censorship Mr. FINE would be the first of all members who would argue with us about each and every decision one of our mods made. You kow this very well yourself ...

Perhaps we could start filter out all publications ith the business claim "No mirrors"? And yes what? YOUR publications would ALL be filtered out.


"""... the value of the published stuff ..."

goes in many cases against zero - already covered by above words"

ep, we can make it short: Whatever you publish is great, whatever YOU do not like is shit :-)

BTW, I spoke about the fact that the is no difference about the qulity of the published stuff depending if published for business or sgaring reason.

""... members and visitors feel well."

would be nice if it came true to nearly 100%"

Do I really have to spend my time on such childish statements? All you wrote so far has noticing to do with your attack against Pasha.

A hint: You still did not even apologize to Pasha.

but back ...

"""... members and visitors feel well."

would be nice if it came true to nearly 100%"

Great how you always pick my words out of the context I wrote them.

Sorry to say, but if you do not feel well at AvaxHome, You perhaps should look around a bit trying to find another site which better fits all you needs.

But as I am almost sure that you will find no othr site fully fitting to all your special wishes I think it is best to just start your own site. Webspace is cheap as it never was before.

And in 1 or 2 years Bully ill come to your exceptional FineHome.org and will check how many of what ou claim from AvaxHome you really offer your users. And if you really give a place where users can speek free to you, you will have much fun with Bully keeping you busy for days with questions in such style as you do here. I even promise you that I will publish all me questions and your answer here at Avaxhome. Is that a deal?

OK, I stop here. PERHAPS I will come back to your mail after some hours of sleep and many hours of realwork I am paid for - but if the rest of your comment is same style I will follow my own words of not spending more time on your self created "problems".


@ ALL

I hope you are more intelligent as I and do not start answering such questions from fine. Yesterday I really thought this is finally over and even started joking, but today I see fine is still trying to fill his bored hours with "having fun to keep AH admins busy" games.

My "hope" does in no-way mean that I exspect you to follow it. :-) Talk to fine as much as you like, asnwer his questons if you think they need answer, do whatever you like.


@ Torai

My deepest apology for handing fine over to you for further support neds, wishes, "problems". Guess I owe you more as just a vodka :-)

@bully

MY comment to her about "bad tuimimg" means that she stayed quiet all the days since your original comment, but now, at a time the fire was almost near to burnout, she jumped in putting new oil to the fire.Andsorry, no, I will not help to get the fire burning higher, so I decided to "oversee" her "firendly" comment.

Ok, _NOW_ i understand the sarcastic undertone behind you're words - I really had no idea, but as i see now free speech is also a matter of time, and my point of view is nothing more then bad timing and a can of oil trying to put a fire burning ??

BIG BIG SORRY.

Tnx bully, for shutting my mouth forever,

because that's what i'm going to do, i don't want to be responsible for burning this whole place down
But Avaxhome lost another soul.

PS: you can also "oversee" This comment - My dear

I am so happy to find this website I like it very much

@abrouki

You too... that's make 2 of us, it's a good start.
Better than CNN or any other News channel.

Can someone tell me when or if GFXWorld is coming back online? Why is it down so often?

// Info about temporary AvaxHome problems removed
// It's no longer need, now even confusing.
// Yes this note is just for Fine :-)
// Hope ot helps avoid arguing about changed / censored / removed commnt ;-)



@ francris

"Can someone tell me when or if GFXWorld is coming back online? Why is it down so often?"

_IF_ you mean gfxworld.org:

I MIGHT have some ideas WHY :-)))
but more serious:

Did you see the nice email icon at bottom of their pages?

mailto:n0n@modestus.org

This should give you better answers as my ones. ;-)

Seems to get more and more complicated in all the years?

@ opfe

Glad tosee you're still with us ;-)

"Seems to get more and more complicated in all the years?"

In the glorious days when you joined AvaxHome, traffic was most times less as 10% of current traffic. Evenwith newnew software we still have performance problems in peaktimes. Aboz 30 minutesago it took me 12 minutes before a mail I sended to the server was finally processed and stored. REal fun. Same with comments, moderation, eidts. Everything which cannot be just delivered from a copy out of the caching system can be damned slow ad people without enough patient think it would not work at all.

But "complicate"? Nah, not really. Not for an Opfe ;-))

@ opfe

Glad to see you're still with us ;-)

"Seems to get more and more complicated in all the years?"

In the glorious days when you joined AvaxHome, traffic was most times less as 10% of current traffic. Even with new software we still have performance problems in peaktimes. About 30 minutes ago it took me 12 minutes before a mail I sended to the server was finally processed and stored. Real fun. :-( Same with comments, moderation, edits. Everything which cannot be just delivered from a copy out of the caching system can be damned slow and people without enough patient think it would not work at all.

But "complicate"? Nah, not really. Not for an Opfe ;-))

@ LedAstray

There are some known problems with the typing of comments which are still not fixed. Somehow our leader of the technical team is lost in nirvana since 2 months. Let's hope he's baclk again soon ;-)

Only one tip: If you see that the edit box for typing a comment does not look correct or does misbehave, do a relaod of the page and check if it is ok now. As long as you do not click on the POST button, nothing is transfered to our servers - all youe tests are only on your own system.

About the problems with very slow loads: This happens when you do something which cannot be handled by the new AvaxHome caching system, when you need direct use of database. Please look above on this page - I guess I already explained this in more detail.

Depending on browser, security software and configurations of your system there might be problems with correct handling of AvaxHome cookies. If you see such a "Permission denied" message, please log out and log in again. This should work for the full session you do after the re-login.

I myself also lost long comments or eevn a publication under new software. The best tip of all: Before you click on Post or Save buttons, just mark the full text you wrote with your mouse and copy it to your own computer. Takes just 1 or 2 seconds, but _IF_ something goes wrong, you at least have a copy of your work and can paste it back to AvaxHome. Not real fun, but at least a workaround to avoid full loss of your work.

Sorry for such problems - we hope they will be fixed soon.



@ fine

"Although once should never complain about a gift - AvaxHome is really a gift - "

Glad even YOU finally noticed that :-)

Let's hope you will now follow your own words and treat it like a gift yourself.

Ah, I cannot end my AvaxHome day without a public response to fine :-))


@ Fine

"...problems with correct handling of AvaxHome cookies

The new AH-cookie-handling should be replaced a.s.a.p. by the old one which didn't make problems at all."

For 99.999999 % of our users it woks fine :-) Feel free to discuss with TDz. ;-)

I guess, most of us know the famous words "Never change a running system"

Opposite to TDz I would not call the current version a well "runnuning system". Special for mods and admins it is slow like hell and full of known, but still unfixed ugs. Same for AH 3.0 and 3.1 - some bugs are fiexed in newer versions, but at same time new bugs are added which did not exist in older versions ...

"text you wrote with your mouse" - I prefer to use the keyboard for text :-))

And I would prefer to qote me in FULL xontext which makes more sense :-)

I Wrote:
"..., just mark the full text you wrote with your mouse and copy it to your own computer."

MARK the full text you wrote with your mouse ...

OK. Special verson for fine:

"mark the full text (you wrote) with your mouse"


""a gift...Glad even YOU finally noticed that :-)"

YOU should know, that I always saw it in this way - but IMHO publications are also gifts :-)"

Yep. :-) But it is like in your family. The father (gift) comes first, the son (gift) second. Reason is simple: Without father (Avax) no son (fine's publication) would exist.


"I miss your reply/opinion to the following statement:

"less comments -> less fun -> less interest in posting new stuff" "

You mean, if we fully delete the "no mirror" rule, we at once will have lots of more comments in each publication, correct?

But will theis be more fun for you?
Will this increase your interest for posting more new stuff?

Was this the answer you wanted to read? I tried to avoud writing this earlier :-)


But more serious: Yes, in my view AvaxHome was much more fun in older years. Publishers who published for sharing, not for profit, did of course like to see more response to their work, to talk with users who like same stuff. Special in the music section I well remember the days when normal music publications had 8 or 10 comments and special publications even 20 or more. And yes, I also well remember all the fun and jokes we had in past.

We still have some very small and special islands here, were people of same interests come together, talk together and work together. For example:

http://avaxhome.ws/music/avant_garde

OK, there are also some publications which do not really fit there :-) but when you see the "right" publications from the "kernel" members of this section, you can see what I mean.

To sum up for fine: We already offer anything needed to talk - comments in publications, private messages and meanwhile even AH Talks. But we cannot FORCE people to talk. Same as I cannot FORCE YOU to be more quiet ;-)))

It's not a perfect world we are living, same as AvaxHome is not as perfect as it could be - just let's try to make the best out of both of them.

@ fine

""For 99.999999 % of our users it woks fine" "

"Your math is a bit wrong: with the 1 Million users, you frequently speak about, 1/100 user :-)"

Yep. I spoke about you :-))

BTW, your math is also fully wrong :-) I wrote "users". This means: members AND visitors! Asuming that even you agree that visitors cannot login, you must use the number of members, not visitors, not users :-) Orsee it as the joke it was. ;-)

"In short: with "Never change a running system" I meant the LogIn-procedure from the old soft"

This does not mean that the old software was correct or better :-) We could also say that the old software had a bug which in your special case of useage did fit better your needs.

""mark the full text (you wrote) with your mouse""

"We all know, that you are the "master of large explanations" but my joke was self-explaining (or didn't you understand it) and therefor a very short reply as ":-)" or ":-))" or even ":-)))" (depending on your personal "strength of fun") had been enough. :-))))))))

I understood your joke. :-) No matter that I also worked with sysystems you normally handle with a touchscrren or panel, - and when no touchscreen / panel is conncted, you jave no otehr choice as simulating the input with the mouse. With a good optical mouse with good resplution this works better as you might think :-)

But anyway, I don't like quoting leaving out the most important words what you are q master in :-))


""You mean, if we fully delete the "no mirror" rule, we at once will have lots of more comments in each publication, correct?""

"You should read more careful: I claimed, that because of the system-problems (AH-bug-soft) it's meanwhile a pain to do comments and therefor a lot of comments are not written as many users are avoiding this pain. But when "no mirror" would be the rule (mirrors forbidden at all), a lot of publishers surely would have more fun - not only me."

As we already dicussed in private, AvaxHome has BOTH publishers and downloaders. Both epend on each other. And you also know very well that we have much more diownloaders as publishers. Pulishers alredy hae enough ways to toruure the downloaders - some guys now even started to separate the downloaders in 2 groups - members and visitors - and make their links in such a way that a visitor without PM access cannot use them. As long as sharing exists, also mirrors exist. OK, in past all mirrors were done just for sharing, now many are done for profits. But exactly the same we have with publishers - many of them also only publish for profits. We try to keep a balance between sharing and profits, both for publications and for mirrors, and we try to keep a balance between publishers and downloaders needs. It's important that both uppers and downers understand that they both depend on each other nad - special in case of AvaxHome!: That we are a COMMUNITY, not a 2-class-system.

And to the start of your above quoted words: The most problems you suffer from are not AH-bugs. They are performance problems of our new servers. I carefully described our new cache system at least 2 times in public - as soon as you understand what I wrote, you will quick notice yourself which of your problms is nothing else as overloaded servers related. At the moment there is nothing we can do against it, sorry. I myself suffer much more from it as you, becasue almost anything I have to do here needs to bypass the cache and is f'cking slow. Slow means concrete: Up to 10 minuttes! before the command is processed and result shown.


""But more serious: Yes, in my view AvaxHome was much more fun in older years.""

"The serious part of your reply/opinion is very near to my heart and I really hope, that a lot of users will read, understand, think about your words and change their behaviour (back) to the usual one from the glorious times of AvaxHome."

My words are not new. I wrote same in perhaps a bit different words a few times this year. We even had small discussion about this topic, including the one about the "lost spirit" of AvaxHome. But there is no way how the AvaxHome team can solve it - it is also very strong based on the fact that many old users left us, lots of new users came in, the behavior of the mass of members did change during the last 2 years. For example, we now hae more publications in the category software, which of course brings more warez-kiddies to AvaxHome. All these things changed the "quality level" of our members. This is a very dangerous topic to write in pulic, becauseit can very easy be fully misunderstood. I TRY to make it somehow understandable.

In past AvaxHome was a place with a very special level of users. Most memebrs where at an age of 40 to 50. Based on the very high level our ebook section was at this time ( instead of playboy magazines, sex-guides etc we had mainly high level engineering, mdeical, sciecne books. Such stuff draws other membrs to a site as cracked shareware programs, wallpapers and icon collections. And with such mebers there was no problem with respecting each other and having many talks on a common level. It somehow worked by itself.

Now content of publications is at a different level, drawing different kinds of members to AvaxHome, which also behave different. Age-average dropped much, interests changed much, publication content changed much.

I do NOT say that this is bad. But situation is differentnow. Same as in real life, a 14 year old warez-kiddie has not much to talk with an 50 year old Astro-Physicist :-) Someone who grow up with Stones, Cream, Zappa, Cohen etc. (means: In a time music WAS music) has problems to talk with a youngster claiming that Techno is "music" :-)) And same problem of differemt age generations we also have inside the team, making some things more complicated as they should be :-)

I'm sure I did not find the best words to describe this situation which is a main part of changes at AvaxHome. So, PLEASE, do not attack me for single sentences, try to understand the problem itself I tried to decribe here.

We try to give a HOME for everyone, no matter of age, education, culture or religion - no matter if taking part for sharing or taking part for profits - no matter if publisher or downloader, no matter if registered member or visitor. The result is a very complex mix of members and visitors - a mix which is not easy to handle. We still hope that our users will find their own ways to overcome borders, giving up a bit on selfish wishes, to better integrate in what we see as a COMMUNITY.


"Very strange:
Although I pushed the POST-button only once, my comment was stored (since now) three times.

I never had this my own - when I had something double or trible, I was not patient enough and clicked again :-) What you describe looks more like a special handling of the browser. As the browser did not receive an answer before its internal tzimeout, it sendded the command again. There is a waiting queue for everything the database cannot handle in real time. But we have no AI implemented which takes one command from the queue and adds it 2 times again to the queue :-) A programmer should udnerstand what I mean :-)

"The system seems to become more worst each day instead of better."

The more new user join, the slower the system will be. Easy math :-) In old software comannds were just canceled (502 error) when traffic was to high or canceled at database timeout (504) - the new software does NOT CANCEL your command, it is hold on the waiting queue until it can be handled. In worst cases thiscan take up to 10 minutes. But this is only for ommands which need direct access to the database server. Normal commands, like calling main page or new publications, will be handled directly from the cache system, so it is almost ever fast. (It is NOT fast at the times the cache is under full rebuild).

" Please, can somebody with a really good voice call very loud for TDz or is the reason for his absense, that he already has given up. :-)"

It's not such easy ...

Let me answer with the most quoted TDz words: "Be patient!". And no, I'm very sure that he has NOT "gievn up".

@ fine

About your 2 empty comments:

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Posted By: fine Date: 03 Oct 2007 02:01

Posted By: fine Date: 03 Oct 2007 02:04

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Hey, TNX!!! Didn't exsepct at all that you would follow my wish to stay more QUIET so quick :-)))

Such comments are much much faster to answer as your comment above those two ;-)

@ fine

"You tell us "Be patient!" but you are impatient and once more repeated :)))"

Hehehe ...you really should sit here at my desk to better understand. :-)

When YOU load this page, it loads rather quick from the cache and you can go on with it. When I load it, it takes me around 4 to 7 minutes until I can go on. I even have to watch how each single comment slowly scrolls over the screen to add some things you do not have on your screen. It was no joke at all when I wrote above that AvaxHome mods and admins suffer much more on current serverload as you.

And yes, when I want to do a 10 minute check at Avaxhome and find myself online for 2 hours, I start to get impatient :-) I have many AH pages open at same time in many browser tabs to switch on different things when loadtime is extreme. Somehow I guess I thought the tab with the missing green status line was an EDIT COMMENT, so I clicked again, but it was an ADD COMMENT, so it went out twice.

Was no planned joke for you, :-) so I killed it as soon as I saw it on a reload.

"While I was very patient waiting about 15 minutes until my comment appeared, ..."

That is what WE see almost all the day. Perhaps you now can imagine what pain it is for Pasha to moderate the new publiactions. Everything during moderation cannot be delivered by cache, everything depends on serverload. Whenever I do a short test on moderation pages, I wonder how Pasha can live with that delays without going crazy ...

@ ALL

During the next 3 or 4 days chances that I can login to AvaxHome are very low, sorry!

For URGENT service requests, SPAM reports etc. please send your PMs during the next days to -=Pasha13=- or Avax. Not urgent mails you can still send to me, but please be aware that it wil take some days until I can handle them. Same for waiting PMs I had no time to handle so ar, sorry.

Am I the only one getting REALLY tired of the tendency that this page is turning into a long and intensely boring private conversation between fine and Bully about absolutely NOTHING?

I generally like the idea of having a place to speak your mind on AH issues because this is exactly what AH needs to generate a more true community feeling. But there should be one simple rule:

IF YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SAY - DONT SAY ANYTHING !!!

@fine.
It's not personal, how can it be when I dont know you irl but... Get over yourself dude!You are only one person but you seem to have the ego of a thousand. We're drowning here.

@Bully
Can't really blame you for relating to what surtain members write inhere but you're playing their game when you always worthy questions with an answer. Don't you have an 'indifferant' mode or something?

1) Wasn't at AvaxHome once a message board ? Is still accessible ?

2) There is some spam in varius areas, could you please delete the account of the spammers ?

Hecatombles

Hi Guys,

To start with to would like to appreciate you guys for doing such a good work.

I am looking for few softwares from Palo Alto.They are:
1. Industry & Market Research
2. Business & Marketing Plan Bundle
3. How to Start a Restaurant
4. How to Start an Import/Export Business

Hope you will help me out.

Regards,
Jai

I have a request for an audiobook 'Edward Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' audiobook, the unabridged version.

I can't find the unabridged on a torrent or anywhere else anymore. If anyone has the audiobook, please share? Many thanks in advance!

Thanks so much to everyone on the Avaxhome team for the great job they do. This is a fabulous site. I only discovered it in April and have found treasures here.

It seems as though, in Bully's absence, discussion has ground to a halt. I would just like to say that I think a forum would be great for the kinds of issues dealt with on this page. In a forum structure, discussion topics could be categorized and more easily found.

I also think, like inem (21 Aug 2007), that a forum would be the best place for 'how to' information; for example, how to rip CDs and DVDs, add subtitles, join/split video, and a whole host of other subjects. There is some criticism here of people who leech and don't contribute. I think it probable that in many cases, people are willing but simply don't know how to prepare material for publication. It is possible to get the info from the net but it's a slow, slow process and the experimentation involved requires a degree of technical aptitude.

What do other members think? cash6 (07 Oct 2007) says AH used to have a forum. What happened to it?

Dear Admins,
How can I get some records of community like:
-number of members and active users
-number of posts(books, movies, music and stuff like that)
Thx

@ mox1x2

"-number of members and active users"

As current performance problems of our server network badly shows: TOOOOOO many ;-)

"-number of posts(books, movies, music and stuff like that)"

Very easy math. Look at bottom of indexpages and multiply the highest page number with the amount of publications on each index page (currently:15).

For example:
Music section:

2543 * 15 = 38,145 music publications you can access.

Main page:

7420 * 15 = 111,300 publications you can access

(Real amount in database is higher because of refused publications etc.)


Why do you ask? AvaxHome is not for sale - at least as far as I know :-))

@ Bully

Could the designers please include a 'comment delete' function in the next build of AH?

Because the server is so slow, a lot of duplicated comments are posted. Though we can edit our own comments, we can't delete them. If we could, we could help to tidy things up.

@ isabeau

The number of comments in the database is no problem at all. All AvaxHome pages you see are delivered from a caching system where most of the page is pre-built delivered, there is no access to database server for fetching comments.

It would be fully opposite - if we would allow to delete comments, each delete call would need direct access to the database server to delete the comment AND total new build of the page in the pre-fetch / caching system.

If it is really needed, like with spam or offending comments, all AaxHome admins can delete comments. But under heavy server load it is a real pain - can take up to 8 minutes or more :-(

@ ALL

Domain change: avaxhome.ws -> avaxhome.ws

If you encounter any new problems in accessing AvaxHome, please make sure that you update every related security software running on your machine to the new domain name.

You need to allow

- javascript
- cookies
- referer

for the domain name avaxhome.ws

Or: Copy same settings you used so far for avaxhome.ws.

@ Bully

I understand now. Thanks.

I also want to thanks to people that makes Avaxhome.
It is the best, I think. I discovered it new, but it became the first website I visited when I entered the net.
Again thanks...
And Turkish:
Avaxhome'u hazırlayanlara teşekkürler. Bence netteki en iyi site. Onu yeni keşfettim, ama her gün bir şekilde ziyaret ediyorum. Bana bunu yaptırdınız ya... Elinize sağlık.

@ LedAstray

"Permission denied" in normal conditions means that our servers do not RECOGNIZE who you are.

After login our servers send you a cokkie with a session ID - your browser sends this ID back with everything you do so that our software knows who you are and can check if you have permissions for that request or not.

There are many possible things which can happen to trigger such a "Permission denied" error.

1. Your browser or other installed security software does not allow / trashes the cookie

2. You use more as 1 account at same time

3. Performance problems of our server network

Topic 3 should be the most important one currently. We have again much higher traffic as the main, the central core of AvaxHome, the database server, can handle at same time.

Most things you do at AvaxHome, like looking on index pages like main pages or in categories, looking at a new publication etc. are delivered by a special caching system, without any need to query the database server. All these things handled by the cache itself are FAST.

Everything which CANNOT be handled by the cache, like personal login, personal messages, creating new comments or new publications etc needs to bypass the cache and needs real communication with the database server. The more users sending such requests at same time, the longer the delay is until the database server can handle YOUR request.

More details about this topic can be found in older comments on this page.

It is getting much more complex when you have multiple servers, and each one with own multiple request lines. It can happen that one of your new requests is handled on a fast request line, while the other older one still hangs in another very busy request line. And now combine to this the problem when the main core, who needs to synchronize everything, the database server itself is tooo busy handling the requests in a reasonable time.

OK, I stop here with deeper technical descriptions. The result of them everyone already saw while adding a comment or sending a mail. But exactly this problem can also happen with your login. One server eof our network (or one request line) already knows who you are, another one did not know this information so far and tells you: "Permission denied".

The best help I can offer is still: Logout, wait a moment, login again and hope the best :-) The second best: Try to not use AvaxHome at peak hours, when everyone also tries to access.

any chance to get the messageoption restored again? Logging in does not seem to help...still get the access denied which disappears when I do an extra click, but then the send option blocks...

It is now almost impossible to post comments (I hope this one goes through) due to a greed-bug that turns the Post button into an advertisement link and takes you to a stupid advertisement(Inetauto.ru)in Russian(?!) instead of sending my comments. This is unfortunately not new as it has happened before and means that I can not thank the Uploaders for their generosity. Do you really want this extremely irritating spam to go on or are you going to put a stop to this?!

@ harrygee

Use adblock plus. It really helps alot when visiting sites like these that have a lot of advertising. None of them ever annoy me since using it:

http://adblockplus.org/en/

Im having the same trouble as others I logged out and log back in and this does give me the page for posting sometimes but when I hit the create button it always takes me to a white page with the live internet orange icon up in the left top corner and it goes no further than that Ive tried to use Mozilla Firefox to see if it was a internet explorer problem but I get the same results I would appreciate any help I can get
Thank You Buffy

buffyb,
I experienced the same problem, many times :)(since .info domain is in effect) I am sure it will be resolved sooner or later ... AvaxHome is a big-ship , it will take sometime for everything to resolve but it will .... :)
This is what I did for my publications :

I use a template in notepad, each time the page turns white, I will log-out from AvaxHome and resign back and re-paste the template. (Refresh the browser and reconnect with Avaxhome is necessary ) Sometime, I have to retry this routine 3 - 4 times, the overall time it takes is less than 5 minutes (you will become fluent with this routine after getting some "practices" :) )

It is a little inconvenience, but if we put ourselves inside the admins shoes, this inconvenience becomes nothing as they are facing much more headaches than us :))))
As always, AvaxHome will go through several bugs and obstacles but it will always navigate itself out of it. As uploader and downloader, our best contribution is to be patient. (I've been here for 2 years, good times and bad, even during the major troll times such as the one at the end of 2006 where all publications got deleted as soon as they were activated....).
I hope this little feedback helps you, buffyb, and I apologize to anyone who might get offended with my view :)

my respect to all, regards :)

It's becoming extremely difficult to make a post, these days. Not only are comments published multiple times (even though we only press the "post" button once), but to preview a publication takes way too long, as does creating the publication if you happen to be lucky enough to see the preview.

ALL

"You guys at Avaxhome are ignoring this and doing nothing about it and this is eventually going to come behind you and bite you in the ass."

With a little bit of thinking you might quick recognize that we are fully aware of the problem and that it already "bites our ass" much more as it will ever bite your one, because we have the same problem as you - but while you do perhaps 3 or 4 comments, we do over 100 a day and when you do 1 PM, eh have to do 40 and more. The current performance is a real pain and we are the ones who suffer most of it. While yo have just 1 or 2 publications in the editor, our moderators have over 300 in the editor, with same slow load as ypu, with same erouble with side-effects from overloaded database server.

What we currently see is nothing new. It is as old as AvaxHome is. You plan and configure a system based on current needs, with some spare resources for a normal grow. This works fine for a period of time. But same as number of new members and number of visitors grow, the system more and more comes to ut's limit.

Start of 2006 we had finally reached the point that we needed to develop own software - standard software was no longer able to handle the amount of users and traffic in realtime.

Summer 2006 we had reached the point that a single server no more was able to handle the traffic, so we had to build a cluster network of multiple servers.

End of 2006 we had to face that our own software, even with cluster network, needed more intelligent handling of requests to keep up with the traffic. We even had to give up PHP and so the new software had be designed again and fully coded again to take care for the special needs of high traffic. Launched end of may 2007 the new software had a new concept to avoid constantly update of the index pages, it includes a clever technology of caching and pre-building most need pages, so that the next user who calls it can have it at once,without any need to connect to the database server and so on. It worked great and AvaxHome was fast like never before :-)

But since summer we have again about 40.000 new members and about 250.000 more visitors. And the more members and visitores are using AvaxHome, the slower it gets.

Easiest solution would be to buy just the next server and add it to the cluster. But AvaxHome is no high paid Premium system, Avax pockets are not filled so big that we can say to him "HEy, Avax, we need another 6000 $ to buy next server.

We need some time to find solutions which are possible to do.

We ever found solutions when we had this problem and we will find again.

Instead of calling us ignorant it would be much better to avoid unneeded traffic. Hammering the send button 10 times to send out 1 single comment means that you add 9 unneeded tasks to our servers - with just one result: Even more slowdown, not only for you, but for ALL members. The more users doing this, the slower the whole system will be.

What I write here is only for our members! The much higher amount of visitors is not the real problem. All they do is directly served from the caching system. They cannot do anything which needs direct access to database server.

Can someone (Master Bully?) please explain the search-engine?
What´s the difference between searching "David Bowie" and David Bowie (without quotes)?
Both are looking for: Bowie, David - and showing me everything from David Bowie (YES) - to David Gilmore until David Hasselhoff (almost....)

@ mex

"What´s the difference between searching "David Bowie" and David Bowie (without quotes)?"

First in general:

If you tell a search engine 2 keywords

david bowie

without any clue HOW the search engine should handle your input, it depends on the search engine if it treats it as

david AND bowie

-> Pages which include BOTH words

or

david OR bowie

-> Pages which include either the owrd david OR the word bowie.

If you tell a search engine

"david bowie"

you tell the search engine to do a PHRASE search. This means, to only give results of pages which include the PHRASE "david bowie", that means not only both words in same page, it means exactly in this order and without any other words between the word david and the word bowie.


And now to AvaxHome search:

In past AvaxHome did a real phrase search, taking lots of resources from the database server. TDz switched it to a different search engine with pre-build special search indexes, but without phrase search support. But phrase search is very important special for moderators. When they have to check a new upload like "David Bowie - Heroes" they need real hits for THIS album, not 100 hits they manually have to check and waste their time.

After hard persuading TDz finally added again "some kind of" phrase search, coming close to results of a real phrase search.

Some weeks ago I noticed myself that the results of a phrase search in AH Search no longer give the expected results, so it seems "someone" has changed again the behavior of AH Search. Might have to do with the already poor server performance we suffer from.

@ LedAstray

"Another bug in Avaxhome: when you edit a comment that you previously posted, and then click "post" your comment gets posted 3 times."

Impossible :-)

The EDIT comment function only changes the text inside of a comment already stored in the database - it cannot create a new comment. If you look in the addressbar of your bwowser, you will see that the call to the edit function includes the Comment ID (the pointer to the place where your comment is stored inside the database).

When you write a new comment and click the post button, a fully different function is called. The create comment function first asks the database server to assign a new Comment ID (autoincrement) and adds a new comment under this ID to the database.

Same here, just look at the addressbar of your browser.

If you see the create url, each click on the "Post" button will add another new copy of your same comment to the database. If you see the edit url, you can click the post button 200 times and you will still only update the same comment 200 times, but not create another copy of it. :-) Eh, just for sure: Please do NOT click 200 times :-))

In your case, I am rather sure that you did click the post button of CREATE comment a few times. With current slow server performance it can take up to 20 minutes until the create task is finished. When you saw your first copy of your comment, you did edit it. While you did edit, the server finally found time to handle your earlier create comment, which you perhaps did 10 minutes before, so after your edit was done, you first time saw the copies of multiple create comment calls. In such case you will notice that the time stamp of the multiple copies of same comment are very different.

AGAIN: If you do just see no response after your "Post" click, it currently just means that the servers are so busy handling the tasks of other members that you still have to wait. You shouldn't click "post" again in such case. If you receive a real error message, like 502 or 504 AND if the addresbar still shows the create or edit url, then please click post button again.

Sorry for this complicate handling of such an easy task. But as long as we do not have much less users again :-) or better server performance, it is the only way, no matter what pain-in-the-ass it is.

@ LedAstray

"@ Bully - I appreciate you responding about the problems with the site. But please, try to put yourself ..."

At least one of our team should take care a bit about the current problems. Please understand that I am not a member of our technical team and not the coder of our software. TDz should answer these questions, not me. But without a sign of life from TDz for almost 4 months, I took the ass-card to answer technical questions. I can explain to you what goes on in database and in software, so you can better understand the reasons of misbehavior you currently have to face, but I'm not the one to fix these problems.

And there is really no need to give me examples how I can see these problems myself :-) I suffer under same problems myself much more as you do - same as all AvaxHome admins and mods. Even a normal load of a page takes much longer for us as for you, because our pages have a special handling, adding some content you do not see at your screen. I have waited myself over 21 minutes until a comment showed up as 3 copies, I waited myself up to 15 minutes until the login was accepted on all servers instead of "Permission denied errors", and I spent 35 minutes moderating one single publication when I did a test of moderation performance.

Out of own experience and logical understanding what happens inside the software, I gave some tips how to lower the pain of current performance, but no matter of knowing what's going on, I'm not the one to "fix" it, sorry.

@ x52x52

"there are bigger sites out there running on less hardware (in the same hetzner datacenter) btw"

It depends what a site does. A "normal" site, just sending back already created html pages is much faster as a databased site updating in realtime. Yes, Iknow, current performance is far away from realtime. :-) It also depends if a large site serves 100.000 users or over 1 million. These things are difficult to compare.

"try profiling the code, if the backend code is anything like the UI no wonder there are issues..."

Since over 2 years our technical team does lots of profiling. Until summer 2007 you even could read important profiling data yourself - measurements of page rendering etc. was included in every page you loaded from AvaxHome (as comment at the end of the page source).

"on php side of things use zend debugger and profiler"

PHP??? The current AvaxHome software is done in RoR (Ruby on Rails).

"on database make sure you have proper indexes and optimised queries, and innodb is perfect for hig insert/update scenario

As far as I know we use innodb inside MySQL. Just have a look at the new posting from TDz, currently at top of main page.

"on the ui side of things use firebug, this page alone has hundreds of errors"

Same as our software. :-( But please understand that I am not involved in the technical part of AvaxHome.

"and theres no need to bullshit us about 6000$ servers, hetzner hardware is about 50 to 150euro / month range rental"

It wasn't bullshit, but as I now learned myself, not the latest info. Until summer 2007 AvaxHome servers were at a russian datacenter. If you check in AH news Avax's words of summer 2006, you will find Avax's words about the price of the new server which died after just 1 day of freal usage because of overheating. Some weeks later you will find TDz's words when he upgraded the RAM from 4 GB top 8 GB for better performance. This was no cheap hardware ...

Summer 2007 TDz told me about the move to hetzer, because the price in russia was ways to high. He didn't go into details like talking about dedicated servers instead of the former servers. So I guessed that we still use same servers, just at a different datacenter. And, as we all know, summer 2007 we had the fastest AvaxHome we ever had. But the summer configuration no loneger fits to the again massive incresed number of users.

Together with the call for an EXPERIENCED developer for such a realtime site under heavy user load Avax posted a few days ago also info about current network structure:

“

Распределение системы: * A2 - сервер принимающий (nginx), кеширующий (memcached 512mb) и обслуживающий(mongrels) запросы; * A4, A5 - обслуживание запросов (mongrels); * A3 - сервер базы данных (MySQL), поисковый демон (sphinx) и сессии (memcached 256mb). A2, А4, А5 имеют следующую конфигурацию: DualCore Athlon X2 4800+, 2Gb RAM; A3 - 2x Opteron 2GHz, 4Gb RAM, 4xHDD RAID0;

”

But perhaps it already has changed again in the last days.
Please ask TDz for current details - he is the only one knowing for 90 % sure what TDz does or did ;-))

@ Bully:
Thanks for responding -

(Some weeks ago I noticed myself that the results of a phrase search in AH Search no longer give the expected results, so it seems "someone" has changed again the behavior of AH Search. Might have to do with the already poor server performance we suffer from.)

That´s exactly the reason for asking: "David Bowie" as David Bowie leads you to the same results. (searching Bowie, David)
It´s better to search for "Bowie Heroes", without the common David...
Or even David Hasselhoff shows up - no hero at all...

So, is AH still a Google-like-search-engine ? ;-)
BTW: should we use short AH or AS now ? ;-))) no answer needed...

@ mex

You really should show a bit more respect to Bowie instead of mentioning him together with Hasselhoff. :-))

"So, is AH still a Google-like-search-engine ? ;-) "

Current version of AH Search is a real search engine, not developed at AH, with many features, like Google. but because of performance limitations just a few features are switched on currently. As DOCUMENTATION is an unknown word to our technical team, see it as an adventure game where you have to explore yourself what is supported and what not. :-(

About AvaxFear ... oops ... AvaxSphere:

I follow your wish ;-)

Another Question:
Is Avax Sphere just a temporal Xmas Domain?
Putting the Spheres on a AH-Tannenbaum?

And will there be a avaxegg.com in Eastern time?

@fine:
Mein Weihnachtsbaum hält bis Ostern - also kein Problem.

Tief verankert in der Erden, steht der Baum aus Lehm gebrannt.
Und süsser die Glocken nie klingen, hab sie ja fest in der Hand.

AvaxEgg rules !

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