Susanna Borsch – Off-Limits (2006)

Music is as engaging as promised! Thank you very much!

Unknown, but if it's music is amusing/well done as hers site:
http://www.susannaborsch.com/
it would be a delight: thank d'avi for all these womans!

riesci sempre a stupirmi! grazie d'Avi!
una bella scoperta!

Is it Classical Music?
Composers Donnach Dennehy, Toek Numan, Ned McGowan, Keyla Orozco...
What does it mean?

Delightful listening from start to finish. Thanks for sharing.

A kind of female week...? :)
Dank U d'Avi!

Thank you for directing me to the site, ooliver , it's really interesting done.

@ooliver - yes, that site of hers was done in a very creative way. I should have mentioned it in the promo.

@peachfuzz - good to see you! I agree, it's a delight from start to finish. I never stopped listening until I heard it all

@ capparissi - it's avant-garde, contemporary electro-acoustics, modern creative, improv, whatever you want to call it. In short, new developments in "classical" music. Toek Numan is most certainly a classical Dutch composer, as is Merlijn Twaalfhoven; Ned McGowan is a well-known name in the crossover jazz/classical field. Most of them are relatively young.

Sure,
Pieces like: Ti-Tse, Brat, Click & Pitch, Contour, Workshop, Winter In/m April, ...Again Into Light: Solo, Maní Eléctrico (MY FAVORITE, no doubt), Sîrba voor Susanna,
New developments in "Classical" music???
Why not a crossover in Opera-hip hop quartet creative CLASSICAL chinese rumba. Or maybe ALI BABA AND THE FORTY AVANT-GARDE ELECTRO CLASSICAL THIEVES.
DO NOT MAKE ME LAUGH.
Is Susanna Borsch a Classical recorder music player too?
His recordings: Mezzaluna, Axyz, Susanna Solo, Electra, Artesonado, Recorder & Electronics, Karmatic lab, and his last work Hexnut.
Go to another dog with this bone.

capparissi said:

“

Go to another dog with this bone

”

The dog obviously didn't understand a polite answer to his question, so he better move out of my thread and look for his bone elsewhere.

Thank YOU, d'Avi for this extraordinary release! As a long time fan of Michala Petri's contemporary recorder music, this was a revelation! Definitely ESSENTIAL listening for anyone interested in the latest manifestations of the continental avant garde!

Mr. or Mrs. d'Avignon,

Why don't you try to write a review in the next issue of Gramophone magazine of all this classical composers?
It would certainly be a success.

* Given the extremely broad variety of forms, styles, genres, and historical periods generally perceived as being described by the term "classical music," it is difficult to list characteristics that can be attributed to all works of that type. Vague descriptions are plentiful, such as describing classical music as anything that "lasts a long time," a statement made rather moot when one considers contemporary composers who are described as classical; or music that has certain instruments like violins, which are also found in other genres. However, THERE ARE CHARACTERISTICS THAT CLASSICAL MUSIC CONTAINS THAT FEW OR NO OTHER GENRES OF MUSIC CONTAIN.

There's always a dumb troll around...
Don't answer d'Avi to this moronic guy! No time to loose with this kind of comment.

Did someone say "creative CLASSICAL chinese rumba?!?" I've GOT SOME! Whoda thunk it, eh? I was going to post an rare OP disc of music by Isang Yun next, but NOW, I have a true direction. Thanks @ capparissi! Also, as the world's second largest economy and primary holder of international sovereign debt, please CAPITALIZE the "C" in Chinese! It is just polite thing to do. ^_^ 再见

I think you have no idea that "chinese rumba" is an avant-garde contemporary, electro-acoustics, modern creative, improv BALLROOM DANCING.

Anyway, you said "China is the world's second largest economy and primary holder of international sovereign debt".

And I say "AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL has documented widespread human rights violations in China. An estimated 500,000 people are currently enduring punitive detention without charge or trial, and millions are unable to access the legal system to seek redress for their grievances. Harassment, surveillance, house arrest, and imprisonment of human rights defenders are on the rise, and censorship of the Internet and other media has grown. Repression of minority groups, including Tibetans, Uighurs and Mongolians, and of Falun Gong practitioners and Christians who practice their religion outside state-sanctioned churches continues. While the recent reinstatement of Supreme People's Court review of death penalty cases may result in lower numbers of executions, China remains the leading executioner in the world". (http://www.amnestyusa.org/our-work/countries/asia-and-the-pacific/china).

Mr. wolfy13, I say that this music should not be in "Classical Music" genre place. Is this music avant-garde? avant-garde??? COME ON! I have no doubt that the only dumb and MORONIC in this matter SURE are YOU, and I think I'm not the only one that say it. WHY NOT DISCUSS IT WITH YOUR FAMILY?

Seriously, I cannot believe I’m reading this. Computers and electronics have entered classical music as of the late 40s. You might as well say a piece like Varese’s “Poeme Electronique”, which deviates lots and lots more from the conventional classical idiom than this album, would not belong to classical music. Nor would a good deal of Stockhausen’s works, or Nono’s, Maderna’s: in short, everything electro-acoustic for that matter. Let’s not even talk about John Cage’s experiments with environmental sounds.

“What does it mean”, you ask, referring to the various composers you’re not familiar with.
My retort: what the heck does Bach’s Das Wohltemperierte Klavier mean? I don’t know; I only know I appreciate it immensely.

To continue, whether you like it or not, the old boundaries between the genres are disappearing. That’s the state of the art in contemporary music.
Yet, that’s nothing new. Serious and popular music (I’ll just stick to these definitions for the sake of convenience) have always mutually influenced each other. Polyphonic singing, for instance, was not developed in church, which was the monopolist on art music in medieval times; it came from the people. It was only reluctantly integrated into the liturgical canon. Baroque music was – initially – not a style introduced by the music academics of the late 16th Century. And if classical music had stubbornly clung to the rules, opera wouldn’t have existed. What?!! Classical music (I’m referring to the style period now) wouldn’t even have existed, for in “serious” art the use of instruments was not done.

Further examples: Osvaldo Golijov’s “Pasion Segun San Marco”, written for the Bach year 2000, is largely based on South-American popular dance rhythms and Jewish songs...talking about Rhumba. And Tan Dun has composed many pieces in which musicians play with water or simple stones. Both are celebrated as important voices in contemporary classical music.

I could go on and on. By the way, Borsch’s singing in one of these tracks is based on a particular form of chant practised in India. She’s doing it quite well, although Sheila Chandra (yes, a pop singer) delivers the same chants with more expertise.
This very album has been applauded worldwide. By reviewers from more than one genre, indeed.

Most certainly, you have the right to make wrong – or let’s say, outdated - observations and refuse to accept this as classical music. Go ahead.
But mind: it was you, not wolfy, who started to be condescending and derisive, using terminology such as “don’t make me laugh”, “dog” and “bone”.

To conclude: you’ll be shocked to see my next post, which I do not hesitate for a second to classify as classical music. Stay tuned.

Su Lihua, I have a couple of Petri's disc to release. Keep an eye on my coming posts! :)

d'Avignon,
You wrote "Most certainly, you have the right to make wrong – or let’s say, outdated - observations and refuse to accept this as classical music"

Label: Karnatic Lab Records
Record: Susanna Borsch - Off Limits
Disc Number: KLR 007
GENRE: MODERN, ELECTRONIC
* http://karnaticlabrecords.com/cds.php?orderby=cat_no&order=up
* http://karnaticlabrecords.com/cds.php?id=96

Who says that this recording is Classical/avant-garde music? YOU? WHO ARE YOU? Tell me, anyone else? Where?
Am I outdated? YOU ARE A FAKE.

Is that bullshit the state of the art in contemporary music?
Compare Edgar Varèse or Karlheinz Stockhausen music with Susanna Borsch's... YOU ARE COMPLETELY FOOL!
And "what the heck does Bach’s Das Wohltemperierte Klavier mean? I don’t know; I only know I appreciate it immensely"
DON'T YOU KNOW? You "appreciat it immensely" IMMENSELY? IT IS REALLY TWEE.
And wrote me that "You’ll be shocked to see my next post, which I do not hesitate for a second to classify as classical music"
I FEEL EMBARRASSED FOR YOU!

Your next post: The BRUCE LEE QUARTETS FOR TOILET BRUSH (37 CDs). A chinese (lowercase) superlatively inventive 21st century Classical/avant-garde relatively young composer, played by Susanna Borsch Toilet Ensemble.
DO NOT MISS, it's a delight. I never stopped listening until I heard all this 37 CDs from start to finish.

Thank you!!!

Thanx d'Avignon. Great post.

@ capparissi - STFU, troll!

chibbigon,
This is not CLASSICAL MUSIC at all and is too far to be AVANT-GARDE.
This is EASY LISTENING MUSIC, as easy to listen as to forget.
You told me: "Shut The Fuck Up", troll!
You are really an ASSHOLE. NIGHT AND DAY. There is no doubt. Ask around you.