The Beatles - Revolver [Beatles Collection Box Set - MFSL 1-107] 24-bit/96kHz Vinyl Rip and Redbook CD

Thank you very much!

Jeeze, two Revolvers' in one day! Thank you for this upgraded version of your already awesome vinyl collection! I look forward to your other upgrades.

It's Beatlesmania again today :) Thanks pal! :)

As decent as this sounds, the USB issue has more dynamics and depth. See my comments in Kel's rip of "Revolver."

Thanks for your efforts, however, it's always nice to have alternatives:)

@ Kyqoue - The new 24-bit remasters are certainly very nice. I put this out as a comparison to see if there is enough interest for me to post new vinyl rips of the MFSL LP's.

No doubt the usb stuff sounds great, but remember people, vinyl is still warmer and smoother and more natural because of it's analogue properties and its 96 kHz.

I already have your Beatles MoFi rips Doc so I'll pass on this one.
Thank you so much for the upgrade ;)

@ bob patiño

Thanks for the vote of confidence. Vinyl is no magic audio potion in my book. I suggest you and others who have my earlier rips check this new one out and compare with both the USB and my old rip.

There is also my Abbey Road rip for those with golden ears can compare with the 24-bit USB remaster. http://avaxhome.ws/music/Beatles_abbey_road_mfsl_2496_hqvinyl.html

All unbiased listener feedback would be appreciated.

Just listened to this version and I much prefer this over your older one. I would love for you to continue with your upgrades, these are closest many will come to owning the MOFI boxset. Sure, the Doc Ebbetts CDs are widely available, but not in the quality you are offering.

When you compare your upgrade to the 24 bit official release, it is vastly different. The guys at Abbey Road had access to the original masters and didn't mess with the dynamics to a gross extent. Now, the people in charge of the vinyls for MOFI, from what I have read, added their own EQ'ing to each album. You also have to remember, a lot of people are now used to the digital era of music. Many will never like the warmth and smoothness of vinyl, while some will much prefer it. I enjoy both simply because its listening to an audio format I missed out on and this was how much of my favorite music was original released.

These are my two cents, but I'm 22 and have not had a lot of first hand experience with vinyl.
But, I would love for you to continue releasing your Mofi upgrades.

Oh yes, it is a fact that both remastered and MoFi issues have their own advantages.
I agree with Krycek7o2 when saying that some people will prefer the smooth and naturality of vinyl while some will go for the great & stunning remastered sound. Both have own properties.
And hey, I enjoy both too :)

If this Revolver is an improvement comparing with the old rip then I'm downloading this too.
It will be a pleasure comparing three Beatles issues, I never have enough of them!

Btw Dr., are the new Beatles' rips going to be for all discography or just some of them?

The difference between this new rip and the previous rip is in the cartridge and preamp used. All my prior Beatles rips up to and including Sgt Pepper were made with a 10 year old Shure V15VxMR phono cartridge and the built-in solid state preamp of a cheap TEAC receiver. This rip was made with a new audiophile class Ortofon 2M Black cartridge and the Pro-ject Tube Box SE II tube preamp I bought this past September. Both sell for around $800 each. The later combo of the 2M Black and tube preamp should give a nicer, fuller and warmer sound stage compared to what I had a year ago when original rips were made.

My recent posts of Abbey Road, Magical Mystery Tour, Let It Be and Yellow Submarine I ripped with this new 2M Black and tube preamp combo. My White Album rip was done with the Shure V15 and the Tube Box preamp. I will be making new rips of all the albums I did with the old Shure V15 cartridge.

I won't be able to give it a listen test/comparison to your other rip and the 2009 remastered version until another day or two. With my luck, the links may be dead so I'm grabbing this now and will compare later. Your other rip was great. If you think this one is enough of an improvement to take the time and effort to rip and post it, I can sure find the few minutes it takes to download and compare. I get a lot fun out of these killer vinyl rips just making cds and letting my friends listen. Then I tell them it is vinyl. Most of them were unaware that you can get this quality from vinyl. The old scratchy days on the cheap record player just weren't the same. I've pretty well ran through my list of friends showing off vinyl rips so now they expect it to be good. Thanks Dr. Robert!

I see, you got a wonderful equipment Dr.
Plus those tube preamps bring a beautiful vintage touch.

Btw, what's the password?

@ bob patiño - Sorry, the password is hotvinyl

Many thanks for the upgraded rip, Doc! Much appreciated. :D

Well I've been listening the old and new rip:
The new rip is clearer/cleaner. Both sounds great to me, but the old rip sounds dull at times when comparing with the new one.
I feel the cymbals are more present & guitar strings are more defined on the new rip.
The difference is not night & day, but doubtless it is better.

One more thing, not much noticeable when hearing it,
but I compared the waveforms of old & new Taxman song and the old rip is a bit louder than the new one, why is that?
Actually it is an advantage to me because the new rip is more dynamic sounded.

Maybe not an expert audiophile's opinion, but this is it, and note that I'm hearing from my compueter with ordinary headphones :)

Dr. Robert..please oh please keep these MFSL re-dos a comin'. They sound flat-out wonderful! I just dial down a scoche of high freq. eq and these puppies come to life..better sounding to me than anything else out there. Thanks again!

No doubt this vinyl version is a very fine transcription of the album, but after repeated comparisons (on my system it didn't take all that many), the USB 24-bit is superior in every aspect I mentioned in my previous post.

@bob patiño & Dr. Robert, whenever I hear the adjective "warm" or "warmer" applied to anything audio, this invariably means coloration. Maybe it's pleasing to some people, but nonetheless, it is indicative of coloration by introducing exaggerated even-order harmonic tampering to the original...be it digital or 1st-gen masters. Most MFSL issues I've heard are classic examples of EQ to please and impress the innocent. Each to his/her own, of course, but for those who invest in ultra-expensive, hand-picked audio systems that strive for accurate reproduction, artificial "warmth" seems to be counterproductive. On the other hand, that distortion may be just the antidote for poorly designed, unbalanced speakers and amplifiers.

Just my sou's worth:)

>>whenever I hear the adjective "warm" or "warmer" applied to anything audio, this invariably means coloration. Maybe it's pleasing to some people, but nonetheless, it is indicative of coloration by introducing exaggerated even-order harmonic tampering to the original...be it digital or 1st-gen masters.<<

EQ and "coloration" are added to every master/remaster, including the recent Beatles remasters, which were EQd (in the analog domain) as noted by people involved in the project (on the Hoffman forum, for instance). You or I could not possibly know much/little EQ Mofi or anyone else did or did not add, and it doesn't matter anyway, because as noted, EQ and coloration are necessarily added, always. Accordingly, terms like "artificial" are meaningless, as we have no means to know what is "natural", nor could we possibly know, as there is no such thing. All that matters is sound, which is subjective, not theoretical reasoning of methods used to acquire such sound.

Thanks, Doc.

Thank You, Dr.Robert. rerip all your set to Redbook, If I wanted Dr.Ebbetts 2008 set, I would get it. But I very much like to have your rips. The Sound is sweet, Thanks.

@ cancunman

As I make new rips I will include redbook.

Hey Dr. Robert, your MOFI rip in the midst of these awesome FLAC posts is a joke...right? You're a sweetie, but give it a rest...there's other rips just waiting for your magic touch :)

xoxoxo

I gave a second listen now via amplifier, and the differences between both rips are more than notable.
Certainly the new rip has more life; keep on the Beatles rips re-post Doc; better quality is worth to me.

About the Usb series, well as said on past posts, there are for all tastes.
Vinyl is analogue, and usb's digital so the comparation is a bit silly to me; I personally prefer vinyl sound but it is just my opinion/taste.

Btw, I think warm is a very important adjetive on music's world. It helps to te record not to sound clinic and anemic.
In fact, the Beatles remasters sound warmer (and of course better) than '87 transfers. And yes, they added EQ as SupperFuzz says.
But again, there are for all tastes. Vintage or remaster sound, all that matters is music.

I love your rips! much better dynamic than the USB or whatever 2009 versions.

Will there be more? will the complete discography be here one day ?

@bob patiño

Bob, I hear ya' and agree that sound preference is subjective. In this spirit, I'd like to share my own run-in with "warm" and "digital" sounding. I was an early lover of classical music, and by 19 had a pretty decent collection of vinyl that I listened to through high school and college with my beloved AR-3a speakers, tube Dynaco separates and Thorens/Shure V-15 combo -- (boy, I'm really dating myself). *g*

Anyway, I got to attend my very first live concert by the Chicago Symphony Orchestra in 1973 where the main event was the Mahler Symphony No. 3. What a trip that was! But when I closed my eyes during the concert to listen intently to the music, I found something missing: the "warmth" of the LP recordings I'd became accustomed to during those long hours of listening. The live performance in Chicago's famed Orchestra Hall (the acoustics were second to none) sounded..."cold" (un-warm) and ultra-etched. Lots of detail, of course, but the vinyl "warmth" was missing. What some people today would call the "digital" sound.

My point? Well, for someone whose musical experience came through analogue LP reproduction, it was a little disconcerting. Maybe, I thought, if they threw a gauze veil in front of the live orchestra (especially the CSO brass!) and put a little sound absorbing material over the stage could they achieve that "warm" sound I'd become accustomed to. Only until CDs had matured enough did I rediscover the "accurate digital" sound of live performances that I've been fortunate to attend quite often. But like me in my youth, most people today don't ever experience the real thing and enjoy whatever sound experiences they're used to. Maybe that's the reason for the recent vinyl fad and just plain boomer nostalgia. As for me, I still miss my old setup, "warmth" and all :)) But there's nothing like the real thing, not even close.

PS: I suppose when I say "real thing" I'm referring to live acoustic classical and jazz concerts, not 9,000-channel studio electronic mixes that have no live reference whatsoever...only the twiddling of dials by engineers who could care less about the "live" experience. So I suppose "warm" and "digital" sound when it comes to pop and rock is totally a matter of "pick your poison."

Soundstaging is fantastic with very good instrumental separation, timbre and tone are ok, but what I appreciate is the very high resolution... What a high quality cartridge,Doc! In its range of price (and not only) I think one of the best. Congratulations on your purchase

Thanks once again Dr. Can't wait to sink my teeth into this new rip. I look forward to the rest. :D

@hankpurcell
That is exactly one of the reasons for an audiophile/melomane to become a vinyl supporter, for me, lp's sound bring the most enjoyable experience; Well I got to tell you, I don't belong to X generation (I'm a very young adult :D) so my premiere music experience comes from digital sources.

Anyway, it's still seems increadible to me that I became a vinyl-sound lover since little months ago. I'll not lie you, I don't own phisical vinyls nor tunrntable, that's why I love Avaxhome/vinyl rippers, It/they gave me the oportunity to experience music on a different way.
You see, even not owning a proper vintage equipment I can set the big, big difference between digital and analogue.

I can truly understand you, about your live music experience vs. your acustomed-vinyl ear experience. Every time I listen a digital record, the more I note the difference and the lak of "something" while time passes and my ears get vinyl-acostumed. Don't misunderstand me, I still love my cds and digital recordings.
The sad thing about all this is that those good records andconcerts with true hi quality (the real thing as you said) are less and less every time. Just a little niche on world's music still minds to bring their public a wonderful experience, the major part of musical products sound like a subwoofer boom boom box, and I think it is one of the reasons I'm getting on the path of vinyl, of course is an improvement to me and I've seen that lastlt remasters and new cd releases are getting worst sounding (loudness war, greedy discographic companies, art ignorance).

There are indeed exceptions, like these Beatles remasters or Steven Wilson albums and dvd-a's (I love dvd-a) which still care about quality and bring us great music, well-made productions/mastering procces on a cd or dvd. Again, everything depends of your taste.

It is true, both digital and analogue sound can live perfectly well together :)

The album remaster has also been issued on vinyl, hasn't it? Has anyone heard it and how it compares?

@ Vogelweide

New remastered vinyls have not been released. Postponed until spring-summer 2010 according to latest rumors.

Just want to say thank you.

Hey Doc! If you're still wondering weather to make new rips of all Beatles' albums - just do it. This sounds much better then you'r previous rip... Cheers :}

Hight quality work Dr.Robert, as usual !

Thank you very much! This is a favorite album pope ( from Beatles ).

Many, many, many thanks!
Thanks!
Thanks!!
Thanks!!!
Thanks!!!!
Thanks!!!!!

Thank you!

Very nice sound in Redbook. Thank you!

Gracias, Rob!

Oh, it's nice, to indulge in old memories...
Good Day Sunshine...
Thanks Doctor Robert!
As always a great job.
To my mind, "Revolver" is the best album by The Beatles.


Cheers from Berlin:-)

^^Kisses for RS^^